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- yesman@lemmy.worldEnglish5 hours
Came here to find out what P word was. Saw that this was England and knew immediately.
It’s comforting as an American to know that Europe is still in the running for who can be the most racist.
- technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish5 hours
Where do you think american racism came from? It’s all the same racist empire.
- Telodzrum@lemmy.worldEnglish5 hours
Anywhere people live, there is a contender for most racist person and group.
- technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish5 hours
Nope. This is a denial of the reality of racism - which globally privileges pale skin over dark.
You might be able to make a similar but worthless point about “prejudice” or something, but this kind of talk about racism is just wrong and harmful.
- Telodzrum@lemmy.worldEnglish5 hours
Imagine being this dumb and obstinate at the same time.
Don’t worry buddy, I still believe you’re capable of learning and growing out of your beloved and hopelessly clutched ignorance.
I’m rooting for you.
- 7 hours
Every right wing website or mod ever.
“We don’t allow [political posts, racism, etc] on this site.”
Quietly allows offhand comments that are racist and political from right wingers, quickly tell people to shut up and deletes their posts if they call out the bullshit, especially if using objective data.
- 9 hours
If you are a decent person, you are not on X. There is no other option.
- technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish5 hours
I login every now and then to troll. It’s amazing how much of a shithole that place is.
But I agree that I shoudn’t login at all.
- 8 hours
Huh til. Never heard this before. Gotta be honest tho I’m kinda surprised its a slur, don’t get me wrong I won’t be using it, but it does feel like a “good” shorthand for Pakistani.
- technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish5 hours
Racism has different manifestations in different places.
It kind of shows how stupid it all is.
- REDACTED@infosec.pubEnglish8 hours
Seriously, I’ve heard people say “Pakis” as a short for Pakistani in a non-insulting way, similar to Spaniards or Aussies.
- 7 hours
Funny enough it actually mentions in the Wikipedia article that most Americans are unfamiliar with the slur. I’ll be honest without this thread if I heard someone say it, I would probably have used it unknowingly just assuming it was similar to Aussie or something.
This is not to make light of the slur, but if someone called me an “Ameri” I would probably just assume they’re French, which might be meaner than anything they’re trying to say to me.
- turdburglar@piefed.socialEnglish6 hours
the one person from spain that i knew told me not to use it. she said it was like using ‘chinaman’
- Telodzrum@lemmy.worldEnglish5 hours
“Spaniard” is the preferred and most-official demonym. IDK what she was on about.
- 6 hours
NGL I sat here for like 40 seconds wondering what you call people from Spain before remembering that Spanish can refer to both language and people.
- technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish5 hours
I’ve heard people say “Pakis” as a short for Pakistani in a non-insulting way
Non-insulting according to whom? Some people are so ingrained to racism that they don’t even sound racist. It’s like old people who say “negro” but don’t mean to offend. They’re just unconsciously recycling the racism in which they were indoctrinated.
- 4 hours
As discussed in this thread, America doesnt really have the same historical racist context. I would not be shocked if Pakistani people here were okay with it because the context is different or i would not be shocked if American Pakistanis also didn’t know. This is not a defense of the word, I will not (and really have never used it) just idly noting that context is very important.
- tleb@lemmy.caEnglish7 hours
Here in Canada in the 00s I remember it being a really bad slur. I haven’t really heard it used at all since then though
- zebidiah@lemmy.caEnglish6 hours
Which is hilarious, because in new England a “packy” is a package store, which is a euphemism for a liquor store.
So I got quite a few looks when I asked if we were going to “hit the packy” on the way to the party…
- 8 hours
Very much not good in England. You might well think England did enough to fuck up that part of the world in '47. But no we still have to be a bucket load of racist cunts.
- 7 hours
Its actually mildly interesting, are there other slurs that really wouldn’t be slurs in another country? The F slur would be one I suppose is just a cigarette for some people?
5 hoursCunt is a really nasty misogynist slur in the USA and a friendly mild ribbing in the UK and Australia.
- 7 hours
Yeah “fag” is fine in context such as: “I’m just nipping out for a fag” “Can I bum a fag?”
But you can’t say it to, or about, a person, well, unless you’re a homophobe.
‘faggot’ is almost always a slur though, you’d better be in that rare circumstance where you’re very clearly referring to a bundle of sticks otherwise, no.
I guess ‘nip’ is also occasionally a racist slur for Japanese, but normally quite innocent; just something quick. or a pinch, or a wee dram.
Vaguely related, you might be interested in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polari. A few British slang terms migrated out of queer-creoles into more mainstream usage , possibly via popular radio and tv.
- Monument@piefed.worldEnglish2 hours
A British comedian friend living in the U.S. used to (15-ish years ago) have a joke about asking a guy outside a bar in middle America if he could bum a fag.
He would impersonate the most southern accent he could muster and say “I don’t care. Ain’t no business of mine.” As part of a joke about cultural differences/how the U.S. could be unexpectedly wholesome.Never asked if that was a true story. We fell out awhile ago.
- Alex@lemmy.mlEnglish5 hours
“Just going to pop outside to smoke a removed” would not raise eyebrows in the UK.
- Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
Fancy a fag?
What? You’re a fag!
No mate. Fag means cigerette.
You’re a cigerette!
- 6 hours
oh yes I will be looking at that, thanks!
edit: Another one (please someone correct any parts of this that are wrong). I believe in Korean “you” or some other way of addressing people sounds quite similar to the n-word.
quick edit 2: though I guess different languages don’t really count in quite the same way, its similar though.
- Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish4 hours
FFS, can we stop being so difficult? WHICH P word? Penis? Pencil? Pogostick? What N word?
Can we just put the words there if we’re talking about specific words, so that not your entire readership needs to collectively guess what you’re talking about? Quote the words, if needed, but can we PLEASE stop censoring words, especially in news or educational context?
These days even “d**th” gets censored because oh boy o god, if somebody uses the D word, we will be in trouble!
- yesman@lemmy.worldEnglish4 hours
People on the internet who complain about “censorship” only come in two varieties.
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let’s hear the Nazi out
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Please say the bad word, dog I’m begging you, just say it. Let me say it.
- Railcar8095@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
The “letter-word” thing has always been weird for me as a non native English speaker.
It reminded me to Voldemorts “He Who Shall Not Be Named” thing. I’m used to it now, but I think about it it’s still a weird thing.
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- wampus@lemmy.caEnglish5 hours
Meh, X skews right-wing, sites like Lemmy skew left, every social media site uses censorship along the lines that their intended bubble-market prefers.
Not exactly news, nor surprising in any way.
Also not all that ‘tech’ oriented really, it’s more mundane political drivel.
- technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish5 hours
So… Lemmy “skewing left” is the same as open racism on X? Give me a break.
It might not be surprising, but fascism is always disgusting.
- wampus@lemmy.caEnglish5 hours
Lemmy skews left, and censors moderate views / comments. You’re generally ok in various areas to be openly hostile towards certain demographics – typically white people, cisgendered people or men in general. You can use pejorative language to describe those groups with impunity. You can get banned from lemmy sites for questioning left-leaning narratives. Functionally, it’s not that dissimilar.
Censorship is used in part to cater a site to its market niche / audience. Whether you agree/disagree with a sites censorship approach, is generally based on whether you’re in that target audience / intended marketing bubble. If you’ve never been censored on a site for moderate views, you’re just squarely in the target group.
- BooBees@fedinsfw.appEnglish8 hours
Have you not read the book? It’s not a warning about being too critical of the world’s richest bigot and political insider.
- Hardeehar@lemmy.worldEnglish8 hours
So use the n and the p word, then? Feel free to express yourself on X
- BooBees@fedinsfw.appEnglish8 hours
Do what now? Why would I go on that shithole? Why would I speak like a bigot? I have no idea what your point is in response to my comment. Has no one actually read that book but me? So weird.
