New Outlook takes 10 seconds to show an email after clicking a Windows 11 notification. Outlook Classic does it instantly. Here's why.
  • ramble81@lemmy.zipEnglish
    2 hours

    The new Outlook has been a shit show since day 1. When they first released it it couldn’t load PSTs, it couldn’t use COM add ins, it didn’t link correctly with Teams. You couldn’t correctly add shared calendars. The list just keeps on going, and all the things it fell short on was all stuff that business users heavily relied on.

    Granted some of them need to go, but it’s like they didn’t even pay attention to what was used.

  • SeductiveTortoise@piefed.socialEnglish
    1 hour

    Okay, yes. That sounds like it’s a drawback, but additionally you get not being notified of meetings and looking like an asshole all the time! What a great deal!

  • realitista@lemmus.orgEnglish
    2 hours

    I’m so tired of companies replacing apps with far inferior updates. If you need to rewrite, at least ensure it can do the same job.

    • CosmicTurtle0 [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      43 minutes

      I’m going to disagree slightly.

      IMO, outlook is bloated. It has too many features that are either confusing or difficult to use. Microslop should have released a completely new mail app and given it a new providence along with modern features.

      Think gmail but it would work with any email account.

      Made with modern programming practices. Streamlined and zippy.

      But nope.

      They needed to create Outlook (new). Which they enshittified.

      I fucking hate Outlook. It is stuck in the age of emails being the primary source of communication in a company. Teams isn’t any better. (Give me back slack please!!!)

      But let’s be clear here: we (the users) aren’t Outlook customers. Corporate IT is. And from their standpoint, Outlook does exactly what they need it to do.

      • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        9 minutes

        I’m sure a lot of the bloat is due to needing to make every single thing backwards compatible due to corporations using it and building tools with it for decades.

    • mesa@piefed.socialEnglish
      1 hour

      I wonder why they are pushing so hard on new outlook. Its one of their most used products…and people REALLY dont like changes to it.

  • silver_wings_of_morning@feddit.dkEnglish
    2 hours

    We have had 5x, 10x, 100x productivity gains from AI for a year or two (or more?). Where is this reflected in Microsoft products?

    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish
      1 hour

      100x the output of slop features and projects

      nobody said the productivity gains would be on quality products. it’s quantity over quality 1000%

  • mesa@piefed.social
    4 hours

    The examples are pretty funny. Is VERY slow. Like I thought old outlook was a bit on the slow side for syncing. The videos they provide are remarkably slow in every day interactions.

    • blackbeans@lemmy.zipEnglish
      4 hours

      The only improvement I notice is the search. But to be honest that feature couldn’t get any worse anyway.

  • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    4 hours

    I have to use Outlook for work. It’s difficult or impossible to find the features that were actually useful in the new Outlook.

    I still use old Outlook because at least it actually works.

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3 hours

      It’s so, so bad. I hate it so much. It makes me angry every time I have to do it. Especially when I try to do some sort of action that’s buried 3 menus deep but it decides to sync something at that moment and just pops you out of whether the fuck you were trying to do.

    • EastofEdson@lemmy.caEnglish
      4 hours

      Same. I will stick with old outlook as long as I can.

      Even opening a task takes ten or more seconds on new outlook. What the hell is it doing that old outlook wasn’t?

      • ryper@lemmy.caEnglish
        3 hours

        Windows 11 ships with two versions of Outlook. There is Outlook Classic, the long-running Win32 desktop app built for power users, and there is the new Outlook, which Microsoft is pushing as the future of email on Windows. The newer one is built on WebView2 and is, in essence, a browser window that loads Outlook.com.

        Old Outlook downloads all your stuff when you sync, so it’s immediately available when you try to look at it. New Outlook just being a wrapper around a website probably means it’s asking the server for things as you select them.

        • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2 hours

          Oh that’s bullshit.

          It must be really bad over there at that billion-dollar company where they can’t maintain both a website and a native app. Aww.

      • Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dkEnglish
        4 hours

        What the hell is it doing that old outlook wasn’t?

        Eating all your ram I would guess 🤷‍♂️

        • NekoKoneko@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4 hours

          Someone in MS saw the old Outlook, heard the complaints, and thought it was a great opportunity to lead a full rewrite and new product launch in order to get promoted.

    • mesa@piefed.socialEnglish
      2 hours

      I use Thunderbird for my stuff. I like it for personal email. Its good enough.

      • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2 hours

        Both of my workplaces use Outlook, and it’s so cumbersome. Microsoft’s products do not work well on Linux/Firefox. It’s like they only test in Edge.

        Tried to install and use Thunderbird the other day. Of course I need to ask an administrator to get permission to use Thunderbird as an approved app for both organizations. Not gonna happen, probably. 💀

  • FireWire400@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4 hours

    Good thing that the new Outlook at least doesn’t force itself onto you… oh, wait

  • tirateimas@lemmy.ptEnglish
    4 hours

    I don’t understand how people can stand this sort of software (or quality of software). The only explanation is they are hostages of the situation.

    • dreamkeeper@literature.cafeEnglish
      32 minutes

      I can’t say I’ve experienced any of the problems people talk about here. I use a Mac at work so maybe that’s the difference. The old outlook was an enormous memory hog and slow AF. The new one works just fine.

    • Eternal192@anarchist.nexusEnglish
      48 minutes

      There are plenty of sites that you can check to get alternatives for everything Microslop is offering and you can’t be bothered to then it’s your own fault.

  • chunes@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2 hours

    Pretty much all modern software is garbage. I routinely have to go back to 2009 or earlier to find stuff that isn’t awful.

  • DarkCloud@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3 hours

    And with the power of AI we’re going to keep making those delays LONGER!