- 34 minutes
Fucking Bethesda. If Starfield wasnt such a failure (amongst others) this might not have happened. Yet rather than cut where the issues are they decimate the studio that actually produces the great games.
Mereo@piefed.caEnglish
2 hoursIt’s worse than that:
Another dev allegedly stripped to the bone is id Software, which according to 3D Realms founder Scott Miller has lost “most, if not all” of its coders.
Man. This is heartbreaking. The Idtech engine is dead, the engine that is extremely optimized and much better that that UT engine junk is dead.
- 87Six@lemmy.zipEnglish2 hours
it’s fucking unbelievable how these morons can gut dev studios when the product that came out of them is to the scale of Doom 2016, Eternal and Dark Ages. Ridiculous.
I hope they band together and start their own company.
Speaking of which, if you know a way for me to find games made by devs that were once part of larger studios that were gutted, I’m interested.
Apparently these devs are treated the same way as Mick Gordon
- absquatulate@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
This is so infuriating.
I get gutting and selling studios that don’t hold their own but seriously, id has been delivering banger after banger for 20 years now. Good luck trying to rely solely on fallout to stay afloat you asshats
- rozodru@piefed.worldEnglish52 minutes
I’d argue since the beginning not just 20 years.
without id, gaming as we know it wouldn’t exist today. FPS games, competitive shooters, hell even Valve itself likely wouldn’t exist without id software. goes even beyond that. you could even go as deep as the modding community and all the games that have come from that. the majority of modders got their start with id games. Many rockstar game devs got their start at id or via an id product.
- absquatulate@lemmy.worldEnglish41 minutes
I agree. I was thinking of the “new” id of the zenimax era, but they are truly one of the GOAT studios.
- 87Six@lemmy.zipEnglish2 hours
that don’t hold their own
It never was like that. Studios that do badly are never gutted, not as far as I’ve seen from online reports.
I think the reason why studios are gutted after success is that it’s almost guaranteed that the money will keep flowing even after they are fired, BECAUSE of the success.
If you make a game and it sucks the company can’t afford to fire you because they don’t have guaranteed cash flow regardless if you’re there or not.
- PhobosAnomaly@feddit.ukEnglish2 hours
In fairness - and I’m a massive id fanboy - the company that gave us quality games and trailblazing tech disappeared when they went to Zenimax.
The publishers admittedly treated them well at the start (Mick Gordon… less so), but this soulless bottom-line thinking was always going to hit them eventually.
Shame.
- Kühlschrank@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
The arrogance with which Gordon was treated soured me on the whole franchise which is a shame because Doom 2016 is one of my all time favorites. No small part due to his soundtrack.
- CanadianCorhen@lemmy.caEnglish59 minutes
amen, Loved Doom/doom eternal, but completly skipping the dark age due to that.
- 32 minutes
I applaud your sense of honor, but Dark Ages is still an excellent game.
- Herr_S_aus_H@lemmy.zipEnglish2 hours
Weren’t they bought back in the early 2010s? Doom 2016 was great and Doom Eternal has also a great reputation (I own it but haven’t played it). So they made good games even after being bought by ZeniMax.
- IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtfEnglish2 hours
It feels like enshittification has come for the games industry in a big way lately.
- CaptDust@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 hour
It’s come for everything. Everything from components used in factory lines to the ingredients bought by restaurants, it’s all going to shit. The games industry just happens to be both heavily consolidated and highly public in nature.
- 1 hour
Well there’s different groups of folks. There’s a group who aren’t going to tolerate this and won’t give them another cent, and another group who will look past it until it destroys their favourite series completely, and I guess another, enormous group who are entirely oblivious to any of the goings on behind the scenes and just buy game play game
zewm@lemmy.worldEnglish
2 hoursDo you have the money to buy out id software and pay all the payroll for its coders?
- 87Six@lemmy.zipEnglish2 hours
no, but I do have the money to not buy the dark ages and pirate it instead because of what they did to mick gordon, and now this.
and with that money, I will buy the game that mick gordon is currently working on. Or 50 of them. https://mick-gordon.com/
- 1 hour
Oh shit, He did the music for Absolum! Great game. Banger soundtrack and now I know why.






