• Unauthorised User@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1 hour

    The modern internet is getting filthier by the day. Gone are the days where independent software used to be a thing I suppose.

    • hexagonwin@lemmy.todayEnglish
      45 minutes

      ddg gets results from bing, startpage is the one that gets results from google

    • hexagonwin@lemmy.todayEnglish
      59 minutes

      kinda works, but their results are a bit crippled compared to google (also, no way to search specific timeframe)

  • dial_pootis@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6 hours

    Duckduckgo is surprisingly okay, even with non-english queries by using the region selector (your experience may vary)

    • hexagonwin@lemmy.todayEnglish
      5 hours

      ddg is my primary right now, it absolutely sucks for korean queries sadly

  • otterpop@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5 hours

    This might be one of those things where self hosting isn’t worth the pain, like email.

    I’ve been using Kagi for several years now and have been very happy with it.

    • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      3 hours

      Nah, fuck Kagi.

      They are literally giving part of your subscription fee to fucking Russia. In comparison, DuckDuckGo have ended their partnership with Yandex. Vlads refusal to follow suit and his steadfast support of Yandex is quite telling to say the least.

      Yet another part of your subscription goes to Elon Musks xAI to support Grok in their AI assistant. Even if you are not using that model, all paying users are effectively subsidizing the cost of the Grok API calls. You can’t opt out of that.

      • beegnyoshi@lemmy.zipEnglish
        29 minutes

        Man, I used kagi for 2 months or so and stopped subscribing after that because while there wasn’t really anything that I’d seen that’d make me outright unsubscribe there were many things that I found odd and it didn’t make sense to pay so much for a product that I didn’t agree with all that much. For instance:

        I was unable to remove yandex from my search because:

        what makes it difficult to act on this is that Kagi does not save searches as a matter of privacy policy, and including more moving parts would make debugging search quality issues nearly impossible

        Despite having so many AI features that barely fit into a search engine, such as a translator (slop frontend) and an entire browser?

        It called itself “unprofitable” because search is so expensive while giving an honestly insane quota of AI use as far as I can understand (ex. if user pays 10$ for the kagi subscription: 10$ - 20% worth of tokens = 8$ total quota), giving 100 free searches with, as far as I could see, very little protection against burner emails (the translator seems to not need an account at all and it’s an llm frontend, so it shouldn’t be cheap), and it had many different views in many different places from me.

        But all that made me do was hmmm and shrug it off. I mean, we’re different humans from different backgrounds, of course we’d hold different views.

        But holy shit. Hoooooooly shit. That conversation about the GDPR in the article. What the fuck. What in the actual fuck did I just read there. The fact that the CEO emailed him an explanation despite him explicitly asking to not be emailed too. Bruh.

      • Sims@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3 hours

        You should look into why so many people isn’t angry at Russia and are now blaming US. Your anger is exactly how US manufactures consent for all their wars, and it keeps you from discovering why people doesn’t hate Russia and even blame US/the west for starting it. They simply create a lynchmob - an echo-chamber - where people won’t listen to counter points bco anger. It works.

        ALL US moral attacks on their ‘enemies’ (Ussr/Russia, N.Korea, China, Iran and oc ALL nations that wont be dictated how to live by the US elite) are such manufactured BS, and it all runs on the anger they create in people, and from there, they can do what they want in the name of ‘war against evil’. It will continue as long as people keep believing US and their controlled information bubble.

        Give it a try, just read all the headlines in this list: What really happened in Ukraine?

        If you couldn’t, or you still refuse the idea of foul play after reading - they got to you…

        • blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          2 hours

          Tankie saying everyone else is sheeple while espousing conspiracy theory YouTube playlist as objective truth.

        • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          1 hour

          Thank you for your service. 50 ₽‎ have been deposited in your bank account. Don’t forget to fill your quota by the end of the day unless you want to volunteer for military service.

        • Forsho@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2 hours

          Not sure why liberal zionists are downvoting you, but thanks for the good read in the link

    • Green Wizard@lemmy.zipEnglish
      4 hours

      Searxng has been pretty sweet, been hosting my own for about a year and some change with pretty good results.

  • Mwa@thelemmy.clubEnglish
    4 hours

    I like SearXNG,brave search and mojeek. I understand the controversies with Brave but it’s the only good one I can find.

  • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zipEnglish
    2 hours

    That’s unfortunate, but not surprising. Luckily, the world works without google.

    Get SearxNG and you’ll never need another search engine.

    • hexagonwin@lemmy.todayEnglish
      1 hour

      bruh i literally mentioned in the post that SearXNG isn’t working properly

      • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zipEnglish
        38 minutes

        Damn I must’ve overread that. But how isn’t it working? I have a private instance and it has been working without problems apart from connecting to brave, which is rate limiting me immediately. And there’s so many sites to choose as potential providers, losing a few to rate limits honestly doesn’t seem like a big deal.

        • hexagonwin@lemmy.todayEnglish
          20 minutes

          google (and few other engines) keep giving me errors, and search results mostly empty due to timeouts (or even with no error, there’s just only few results that are completely unrelated to the query)

      • mbirth 🇬🇧@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3 hours

        Kagi is still $10+tax a month. That’s $120 a year (plus tax).

        SearXNG is $0 and a few minutes of my time whenever I tweak the configuration.

    • superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      5 hours

      I didn’t even make it an entire day of searxng, front the literally fist search I tried I was getting blocked haha

        • hexagonwin@lemmy.todayEnglish
          60 minutes

          is this on a residential IP? are you running vanilla options or any api tokens?

  • 杰哥在迪拜@lemmy.1095.meEnglish
    4 hours

    @hexagonwin, yeah—the non-English query thing is the real pain point with most replacements. I’ve been testing a few setups lately, and honestly, combining SearXNG with Brave Search’s API (or just using Brave directly for queries) gets you back some of that multilingual depth that Whoogle had. The indexing lag is real though. We actually built a small comparison of search APIs for devs who need reliable multilingual results—more context at https://cxgo.ai/l/mN06BJw if you’re already evaluating alternatives.