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I mean, nothing here is wrong but I have rarely had C being my primary issue when dealing with roundabouts. Idiots randomly entering the circle with no regard to other cars, THAT I’ve encountered quite frequently…
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Biggest problem I encounter is people failing to signal their exit
So I end up being C because I yield to a bunch of bozos who didn’t communicate they were’t going to come my way
- brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 year
Well we can kinda only go when the signal is accompanied by another indication like slowing and or beginning to turn - “never trust a signal” eh?
That’s because Americans don’t know how to use them, once you live in a place where people use them OPs picture becomes your issue and you never see yours.
Americans have a hard time driving, period. They can’t “keep right unless passing”, they can’t understand 4-way stops, they can’t understand traffic circles, and so much more. So frustrating and dangerous here.
It’s completely F’d up. In the region I live in there are a lot of 3-lane highways (6 lanes total). People “cruise” in the #2 lane and treat it like the slow lane which forces faster traffic left and right around them in the #1 and #3 lanes sometimes going 5 under the limit, often confounded by a #1 lane camper going the speed limit or just a few over. Nobody obeys any sort of rule or has a clue they aren’t being the asshole. They refuse to keep right or yield to faster traffic.
- tromars@feddit.orgEnglish1 year
I know that „there must be a German word for that“ is became a meme, with lot of fake words being thrown around, but I’m not even joking: There’s a German word for that lol ✨Mittelspurschleicher✨
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I was just thinking yesterday that if Trump actually wanted to do good he could convert all these people he’s hiring for ICE into some kind of traffic enforcement agency and send all the dumbasses that can’t drive properly to el salvador. This thought happened while I was stuck in a drive through that some moron had blocked the exit of by pulling up too far.
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1 lane each way highways solve this issue by preventing there being a passing lane except on straight aways when there is no oncoming traffic.
I think that’s location specific, I’ve lived in a few different places in the US that had roundabouts, although I’ve always called em rotaries in the northeast.
1 yearMy city (US) used to have one that was signed all wrong, so cars already inside the circle would have to yield to the ones entering. Naturally this led to congestion instead of flowing traffic. Also it was way too close to a tangential road so that made things even worse because the backed up traffic on that side then affected cars that weren’t even going to the circle.
Fortunately they ripped that shit out and redesigned the entire intersection.
Or badly designed ones with a combo of yield and stop signs that effectively prevent the people with the stop sign from ever proceeding
- null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish1 year
The only real problem I regularly encounter is on two lane roundabouts.
If you want to take the first exit you need to enter in the passenger side lane.
If you want to take any exit after the second you need to enter in the driver’s side lane.
If you enter in the passenger side lane, you must take the first or second exit. Taking any exit after the second from the “outside” lane is gonna cause an accident.
I see this happen a few times a year. It’s so common that most drivers foresee it.
- ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyzEnglish1 year
Yeah the solution there is spiral roundabouts with hard barriers at critical points.
Not everybody is cut out to drive (i.e. to operate dangerous heavy machinery in a fast-changing environment with others depending on you handling the situation correctly). The problem is when we structure our societies requiring everyone to do so to participate.
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requiring everyone to do so to participate.
Bus, taxi, bike, walk, whatever.
I vehemently disagree that everyone has a ‘right’ to have a license, as so many argue.
They never said that everybody has a right to drive. The reality is that, at least in the US and similarly planned countries, cars are priced like a luxury and treated like a necessity by the powers that be. Anything that isn’t driving a car is an afterthought.
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It’s not as binary as “drive or give up life’s ambition”. Uber exists, busses (maybe not in USA and some areas of Canada). Still we are setup as car-centric and it sucks
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I gave up my car. I bus to clients. I understand there are circumstances where it may not be always be the case but there are handy transit out here for moving clientswhoo need support, and other services. I have even seen US shows documenting social work where they use taxis.
C is yielding to a pedestrian, but carbrain D cannot fathom yielding to anything smaller than their car.
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Were this a 2 lane roundabout, car d would be changing lanes to bypass car c, nearly striking that pedestrian
It took me three attempts to parse
We’re this a 2 lane roundabout,
Your mistake is even harder to type than the correct ‘Were’!
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Nope, same level of difficulty since the swipe keyboard autocorrect added the unneeded apostrophe.
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Autocorrect fucks me on were we’re all the time. I bet that’s what happened.
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Pedestrian crossing without traffic lights at a 2 lane roundabout entry? That’s just murderous design.
- 1 year
Traffic lights on a roundabout kinda defeats the purpose doesn’t it? might as well signalize the intersection
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Tho not preferable, there’s cases where it can work. The roundabout layout still provides a better (easier) entry to the crossroads, the traffic lights can create a “cadence”. Technically not a roundabout anymore, it does use some of it’s qualities.
Anyhow, pedestrian crossings on 2 lanes right before any kind of intersection without any lights is way more dangerous than a roundabout with lights.
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Signalised lead ins are helpful to solve flow issues caused by an imbalance in traffic direction at certain times of day. When you get too much traffic building up that can’t enter the roundabout due to no gaps you activate the red light before the entrance dominating traffic flow to give a period where the other directions can move through. The actual roundabout works as per normal and you don’t have to deal with lights during non-peak periods.
Lights on a roundabout make it not really a roundabout but an unholy mishmash of intersection design. I’ve got one near me and the only thing going for it was that converting a roundabout was significantly cheaper than the flyover intersection it really should be made into.
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There’s only one or two in my area that would warrant adding signals, but they’re only backed up during rush hour by people trying to take a “shortcut” around the highway traffic. So I consider them kinda self limiting due to the traffic. Not many more people try to take that route at that time when they’re aware that it’s clogged in the direction of rush hour traffic.
The other is right next to a private school and is only clogged because nobody uses their bus service, so, I don’t have any sympathy for the parents.
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Try a 3 lane roundabout entry. I cross that shit twice a day on my commute to work every fucking day. Other options are very far out of the way as to make them non-viable.
I always wave on traffic so that I may cross when it is safe. Sometimes, a car stops to let me through, and refuses to move. I won’t go, because I can’t see the other two lanes past the car that is stopped. Four times in the past year, that car was rear ended by a massive fuckoff truck. For whatever reason, they get pissed off at me, not the guy that rear ended them.
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Does turning your head/body to face away from that car that refuses to move help much?
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I only once encountered it in Czechia near Plzen with 2 lanes. Think it took me 5 minutes before I could/dared. Can’t imagine it with 3. Crazy dangerous situation. Stay safe!
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There’s no pedestrian in the image.
Cars are bad enough as it is that we don’t have to imagine more problems with them.
I’ve been car A and still had car D behind me beep at me. We hate car D.
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“if I randomly stop in the middle of the road so another car can get in, the car right behind me probably won’t hit me”
Cyclist here.
Someone did that for me, so I tried to rush across the street to not hold up traffic.
Woke up a few weeks later in physical rehab, not remembering anything because of the TBI. Evidently I was in the hospital for about three weeks. No recollection!
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Oh God I love that its just so hulaeuosly dumb when it happens
I just put my hands in the air and yell at them
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Some larger roundabouts work that way. Most (in)famously the arc de triomphe in Paris.
Where I live there are two of these
- letsgo@lemm.eeEnglish1 year
I hate getting stuck behind the “I won’t move until there are no cars anywhere on the planet” drivers.
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Wait until you see the magic roundabout in the UK. It’s a “close your eyes, pray and hit the gas” type of place.
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No one will ever be able to invade the UK, they’ll get stuck in this horror.
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I’ve seen this so often before and I still don’t understand why they didn’t just build an ordinary roundabout. It’s just six roads that meet there. That’s not beyond ordinary roundabout capabilities. Who said “you know what, let’s just do a circular arrangement of five roundabouts here, that’s so much better than what people are used to”?
- Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish1 year
My money is on “the french love roundabouts so we’re not doing that”
- infinitesunrise@slrpnk.netEnglish1 year
It’s really five regular roundabouts circling one central roundabout.
- Amanduh@lemm.eeBanned from community1 year
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People will unironically see this and proclaim that it’s actually not that complicated…
That roundabout needs a speaker constantly playing Entry of the Gladiators on repeat
Then you see the cars completely ignoring the sub-circles and driving over them or backwards to the arrows.
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I drove through that one, not easy. I prefer the turbine design we use in Germany.
I love roundabouts as a driver and as a pedestrian. I do admit that the double laned ones can feel like an utter cluster at times though
you aught to try the kind that’s 3 lanes going to 5 different places and a tram running through the middle!
(this was the most dangerous intersection in my city for a while… they’ve added traffic lights… i do also very much love roundabouts)
- null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish1 year
Yeah I’m a fan.
My city has no traffic lights. Roundabouts everywhere. It’s not a particularly big city.
There are some problems but in general I think everyone gets where they’re going a lot quicker.
- ThePantser@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 year
Then there is this cluster fuck of a roundabout in my city Lansing, MI. Yes they do have a full STOP sign at each entrance to the roundabout for the crosswalk not just a stop for pedestrians which would make more sense. So you have to stop then yield to circle traffic then go. The entire roundabout is useless because once you stop you lose the benefit.
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Roundabouts are not just for efficiency, they are for safety. A regular 4-way intersection introduces multiple conflicts between cars turning left and cars coming from the opposite direction.
A roundabout only has one conflict for each connecting street, and the right of way is clearly defined.
They also change the angle of impacts to be less severe since they should effectively eliminate a t-bone type impact.
And collisions will be at a lower speed since no one will be blasting straight through the intersection. Unless someone really fucks up.
Those crosswalks are too close to the circle, move that back and remove the stop signs.
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The roundabout that I cross every day to go to work has the crosswalk even closer.
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hostile infrastructure. if you’re not in a car then fuck you.
I hate it.
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removal of jwalking laws can help convince the cars to care about crosswalk placement, by enabling pedestrians just walking straight through the roundabout.
- Diddlydee@feddit.ukEnglish1 year
C may be right to yield depending on where pink and yellow are going and the speed they’re doing.
this just here, we don’t have many roundabouts but, the amount of drivers who think it’s a race to get from point a to point b is unreasonable. I’m not about to enter the roundabout as car c if the pink or yellow car is flying with no indicators.
C has plenty of space to be out of the way before pink and yellow can catch up to it.
- Diddlydee@feddit.ukEnglish1 year
It’s a small roundabout and it’s prudent to wait a second to see what they’re doing. Being impatient isn’t a good trait when driving.
If C is moving (and they should be), there’s no reason to wait. If C isn’t moving, yeah, maybe it’s worth waiting, but then my question is why they weren’t moving.
Signaling is not useful in a circle because it’s on the opposite side of the car. By the time you see the signal, it’s too late to make a decision based on that anyway.
As you approach, you should adjust your speed to fit into traffic in the circle. Don’t look for signals, just look for cars.
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Ive had the ‘pink’ car stop in the roundabout and motion, me as the ‘A’ car, to go. Like i dont even anymore.
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There are specific times when this might be appropriate. For example if I am turning off at the exit after where the car is joining from, I can see they’re indicating to making a move around the inner part of the roundabout which is clear, and if I proceeded I would join a queue for my exit and block them. I’ll usually stop short and gesture they move in.
But otherwise it’s usually safer all round to stick to the rules.
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Really? I see them when travelling to London all the time. I used to live in London too. A very common occurrence and if you want to keep traffic moving, allowing people that can proceed to do so, just makes sense to me.
- rothaine@lemm.eeEnglish1 year
Alternative scenario: C starts entering, A decides to FUCKING FLOOR IT, slams into C
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When I have a Car D behind me, it’s because they overestimate my car’s acceleration capabilities.
Broke: Car C is being a responsible, safety focused driver
Woke: Car C is holding up traffic for no good reason
Bespoke: Car Pink is whipping around that turn at 80 kmph and going to kill everyone anyone, so don’t sweet it.
