For so long we have always referred back to Nazi Germany as the last massive fascist and authoritarian takeover, but with America at the gates ready to go full fascist, the Germans must atleast be relieved that in a few years we will be talking about MAGA America instead of Nazi Germany.
W for the Germans I suppose.
Believe it or not, we’d prefer no fascists anywhere.
Glad it was already said, and by an actual German no less!
I was going to say “If I know Germans, they’re not happy. They’d rather leave fascism in the past and not have it exist anywhere. Also, whatever new government exists in the future, they’d like it to be really efficient, but also have triplicate paperwork. Which is somehow filled out easier than most single sheet forms.”
But then you came in, and summed up everything I was going to say.
This is the correct response.
88 upvotes, perfect 👌🏼
Horrified seems more likely
They are, Germans today don’t fuck around with that, they punish it heavily like the US should have.
They really don’t amd honestly never did. Less people were punished at nuremburg than there were guards at Auschwitz. Many nazis got domestic government positions within years of the Paris Peace treaties and some got greater european positions of power like Chairman of the NATO Military Committee. Not to mention the many Nazis who were taken in by the US including the Butcher of LyonThese days the AFD with direct nazi ties and explicit fascist ideology is doing great. Germany was never actually de-nazified
The Americans DID punish fascism severely. My grandfather stormed the beaches on D-Day. He lost his best friend from grade school. They were barely out of high school.
As for the Americans of today? I don’t consider maga to be American. Just like I don’t consider confederates to be Americans.
Actually as a german it does feel pretty shitty to see fascism rise in America and all around the world…
Even here in Germany the far right is growing stronger and it feels like history repeating.
I mean, Merz is pretty fucking right wing.
Yes, but Spahn is the real danger (besides AfD, of course).
Nah, Merz is just as dangerous.
Not even close. Merz is an opportunist but he isnt full on cuddle mode with AfD. If so he would have formed a coalition with them
And already has a proven track record of willingly and knowingly voting with then you further his “ideas”
Unfortunately the AFD in Germany got record aupport in the last election.
Because everything everyone thinks everywhere is always about america…
I’m German and terrified. I find it difficult to grasp that the playbook that was used in Nazi Germany is right there to compare, how the whole thing happened has been taught in schools to several generations in a row, there’s memorial places to visit - the whole wealth of information is there so it doesn’t happen again!!
And here we are, and it is happening again - in what seems an even more overt way than old Adolf ever dared to pull off. They just built a concentration camp in Florida and are loudly bragging about it. People are randomly being kidnapped from the street, based not even on their immigration status but their skin color, by groups of unidentified thugs. All while the media - even international media - still seem to be unable to call “Fascism” to what is happening.
I would have hoped that us being the eternal Nazis would at least have a deterring effect on other people to not fall into the same trap.
I think there are also some interesting similarities with Mussolini. Just think of the role media played. Trump was really active on Twitter, while Mussolini used Il Popolo d’Italia newspaper to spread his message.
Yeah, I’m fine with being reminded of our country’s past again and again if it means others don’t do the same bullshit.
And other countries - including Germany ofc - are copying it.
I’m gonna guess that most Germans aren’t actually viewing the situation as a zero-sum game. So no, I don’t think the US breaking bad is going to make Germans happier, in general.
I think Putin and Netanyahu are a lot further along on this path. We will be spoiled for choice of places to refer back to.
At least he’ll be out in three and a half years
I’m not holding my breath on that, given how nobody is holding him accountable for shit and being allowed to do whatever the fuck he wants; the rule of law be damned.
even if he is out 3.5years he is already doing so much damage.
Germany support the new nazim which is zionism
Don’t get me started…
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted.
Unfortunately due to their history and education a lot of Germans are allergic to criticism of Israel and the notion of zionism being genocidal and essentially fascist by now.