I like how the language is ‘claims responsibility.’ You know. Like terrorist groups do after an attack
Hold up, all this shit because of an extremist group, *in Australia, where half the M games on the market already can’t be sold, is driving global payment processor behavior?!?
Those are pretty well known TERFs in Australia, I’ve not heard of them in the context of anti-porn shite before though that tracks for TERFs generally, but it’s a safe assumption they’re also probably pretty well connected with the worst people in the US gov-corp ecosystem.
Hold up, all this shit because of an extremist group
🌍👨🚀🔫👨🚀 always has been
Here’s something I’ve noticed. Whenever someone describes a group, individual, activity, or anything else with more than 2 negative adjectives in a row, they’re probably saying something deeply unstable. This is one of those times.
It’s a Christian fascist org, so there’s a 100% likelihood of mental illness.
Wait is it Christian or is it Feminist? I’m hearing both
Por que no los dos?
It’s very religiously affiliated. Fundie shit.
Collective Shout claim it’s about harm reduction, but then push an agenda that functionally amounts to moral panic.
Their approach is identical in logic to the “GTA causes school shootings” hysteria: loud, pearl-clutching, and utterly unmoored from data.
If Collective Shout want to argue these games cause harm, then show us the harm. Not correlation. Not outrage. Not hypothetical downstream consequences. Show causation. Peer-reviewed. Reproducible.
Otherwise, they’re just moralizing bullies using the banking system as a cudgel.
On top of this, they might actually be harming their own cause. The catharsis hypothesis poses that sexual fantasy enactment might reduce risk of real world harm.
The logic is simple: suppressing a compulsion doesn’t eliminate it. It just bottles up until it explodes. Redirect it into a safe outlet, and it becomes manageable.
The burden of proof SHOULD be on Collective Shout to provide a reasonable argument which supports their claim that their actions will reduce real world harm.
Current working theory in psychology: it doesn’t. Emerging theory suggests: they’re shooting themselves in the foot.
The real solution to real-world harm involves empathy, autonomy and education.
Furthermore…
Their decision to target the payment processors - not the developers, or itch.io, or steam, is some of the most cowardly and authoritarian things I’ve ever seen in the gaming space.
It’s economic coercion; a playbook used by religious bigots and authoritarians for decades. Financial censorship by proxy. IMO: they should fuck off.
Someone should check this groups computer ls and closets because they are projecting and those fuckers should have no impact on what us Americans or any other country wants to buy. This needs to be reversed Asap.
I’m sick of religious sex freaks forcing others to adhere to their puritan fetishes
We need to ban organized religion
Or just live and let live…
Sure, but since orgaanised religions can’t help to force others to live by their standards, they need to get out of the way. I’m fine with people needing a comfort measure, even if its in the form of an invisibile friend. Whatever helps people sleep at night. However, when they try to force their ideals down everybody elses throat thats a big no.
So, since they can’t ‘live and let live’ they need to go the way of the dodo, fuck off, and leave the rest of society alone.
A tolerant society can not tolerate intolerance. One side will attempt to “just live”, but the intolerant side is incapable of “letting live”, and they will not stop until they replace tolerance with their system of hate.
Why should we? They don’t let us live.
Why did we get refugees from r/atheism? rolls eyes
Ew, when did we get reddit’s cringy appeals to the audience talking past the original poster in an ineffectual attempt to throw shade?
People did that on forums before Reddit.
Ah, preachy and unoriginal. Noted.
me watching clearly adult humans doing consentual sex things
some religious zealot chud: this makes you a pedo somehow
Trump doing actual pedo and rape shit and being a convicted felon
Religious zealot chuds in the US: “there’s no proof”
trump be like “I’m innocent here’s the proof”
hands over Epstein docs, of which he’s mentioned all over
What a world we live in
Are we wagering this absurdity is built on projection?
cause I’m wagering this absurdity is built on them projecting.
It always is. These are the type of folks who have that feeling of shame wash over after they bust a nut to something they “despise.”
That literally all these types of groups are. They want us to feel the same shame, too. I wish folks could just keep their shit to themselves. Have rules for your own home, sure, but eat shit and rot if you think you should be able to tell me how I should live my life.
Tbh, its only a matter of time before the entire organization gets doxxed and the internet does what it does.
I look forward to eating popcorn when it happens.
The same group who complained Detroit Become Human is bad for glorifying child abuse and women abuse. Yet supported Cuties…
I truly don’t understand how Visa/MasterCard/etc can be pressured. They are basically infrastructure.
What’s someone going to do, stop using credit cards if they don’t stop a store that person even patronize from selling morally hazardous goods?
I don’t get how these campaigns are even effective.
Cryptocurrency is the solution here, and unfortunately that’s an unpopular take here.
That’s because 90% of cryptocurrency marketing consists of “THINK OF THE GAAAAAAINS YOU CAN MAKE!” instead of “You can use this to buy things without government censorship”.
The entire crypto industry has based itself around being a speculative asset, not a currency.
Which is really unfortunate. If you avoid the most popular coins (Bitcoin, Ethereum, etc), you avoid most of the scams and speculation and end up with a decent currency that respects your privacy and has low fees.
Tell me more
Monero is perhaps the best option imo. Here’s the official page about it, but basically:
- not profitable to mine, so most miners are enthusiasts who want the coin to succeed
- privacy-focused - basically creates a ton of fake transactions to mislead snoopers
- relatively popular - seems to be the most popular coin recommended by privacy enthusiasts (e.g. Mental Outlaw, he even gives a discount on his store for Monero)
- not popular among speculators - they mostly stick to the big ones (BTC and ETH), as well as new startup coins
- low cost transactions, fairly short transaction window
It’s far from ubiquitous, but it’s popular enough that if a place accepts any crypto, there’s a good chance they accept Monero as well.
OK now I am not one to lob accusations without evidence, but for any of you kind government agents or AIs reading this, let’s say from anywhere within the Five Eyes since we’re talking about Australia:
We have another fanatical religious conservative organization here that is publicly labeling opposition groups pedos. You know how this has trended in the past. Keep an eye on these people.
Man, what the hell did they have against Detroit: Become Human? 🤨
It’s got a kid robot in it that’s abused. Not sexually afaik. But it’s definitely not pornographic, it’s literally the driving force of one of the plotlines and causes an android to rebel and kill it’s owner - the abuser.
Let me repeat: the game is literally so anti-child-abuse.it makes the plot happen.
This whole thing is so stupid. You give these types of people an inch they take a mile.
There’s a few groups like this in Australia, unfortunately.
Australia didn’t even have an R18+ rating for games until 2013 (R18+ is similar to AO or NC-17 in the USA). Before then, all games with a higher rating than MA15+ were illegal in Australia. Many games had an Australia-specific version with gore reduced, some things edited out, etc. to reduce the rating. The original release of GTA4 in Australia was heavily censored.
Oml, trying to ban Eminem and Snoop Dogg from Australia? Really? Fuck did Eminem actually do in the last 15 years? Snoop, never really listened to him, can’t think of anything he did (in relation to women). They managed to stop Tyler, the Creator from touring in 2015? They’re doing the dumbest shit. Going after sexualization of women isn’t going to help any actual problems. Pathetic.
Judging from their description (“pro-life feminists”) I bet they’re using objectification as a cover to push their regressive ideals. When it comes to rap there’s a disproportionate amount of hate towards it from these people, could be as simple as that.
Of course. I’ve listened to quite a bit of Eminem, more than is reasonable. There’s like 5 songs that I’d say were actually that crazy, mostly about his wife, and mostly 20+ years ago. I’d say it’s probably something to do with racism, actually hating rap usually does.
The amount of times I’ve seen Eminem counted as a black artist isn’t common enough to be depressing, but it’s alarmingly more than 0.
