• dan1101@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    The far right is racist against Jews, but the conservative Christians think the Jews are the chosen people, how does that work out?

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      Those Christians want to see a religious war happen in the Middle East since they believe it will trigger the return of Big J. And to make that happen the state of Israel needs to not only exist but be in perpetual state of animosity against its neighbors. Also both the zionists and these Christians believe that the Third Temple needs to be build on the place where the Second Temple once stood on Temple Mount. But that is where the Dome of the Rock mosque stands today. So building the Third Temple would trigger the religious war they desperately want to see happening.

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        they believe it will trigger the return of Big J

        They were doing this very long game for decades. When the supposed return didn’t happen 26 years ago, they instead have to force their hand.

        Now the bastards believe the table is ready for them.

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        no they don’t. That is what they tell their people. Israel is a foot hold into the Arab countries. Any military needs to be able to deploy rapidly. First to the battle has strategic advantage and smaller less powerful armies have destroyed larger ones just with that advantage. Israel lets America control that area and gives intelligence that it wouldn’t have otherwise. Without Israel, they lose a major strategic advantage to controlling the Arab world. The Big J side is all woo woo. Not even sure I’ve seen anyone really say that. Almost all of America’s moves are to control territory that gives their military the ability to deploy rapidly and to control territory.

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      20 hours ago

      The far right isn’t a monolith and has lots of different subgroups like anything else

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        But the evangelical Christians want the Jews to trigger the rapture by fighting the final huge war in israel, and I imagine the antisemites are also fine with the Jews all being sent away to israel for then to be sent off to fight a senseless war to their deaths.

        Somehow they managed to start off from different angles and both end up wanting Jews to die.

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        They sure seem to move as a monolith when it comes to systematically destroying the country in a well planned and organized manner like with project 2025, stacking the Supreme Court, dismantling civil rights, dismantling women’s rights installing a dictator and obstruction of everything that isn’t tax breaks for the people who own everything, unlimited money for Israel, unlimited corporate subsidies and installing an oppressive mass surveillance state policed by literal Nazis

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          They have one thing in common: the understand they can get most of what they want by voting as a block, instead of demanding their candidates tick all the boxes.

          Leftist infighting is the best tool the right has. And they know it. Whenever you see a leftist saying they won’t vote for a Democrat because “both sides are the same”, there’s a good chance you’re seeing a Russian bot or a right wing plant. Or a fucking idiot. I guess that’s a possible third option.

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            “A world without borders” they say. Both Western oligarchies and Russian mobsters want to make their transactions faster, by poisoning the financial institutions trying to stop them.

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          That’s because they hate the rest of us more then they hate each other, that doesn’t mean they won’t turn on each other once more convenient than working together.

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      Actually there’s a big MAGA civil war among its most popular figureheads that boils down to two camps:

      Those that love Hitler

      And those who love New Hitler ™️ (Netanyahu)

      It started with Tucker Carlson interviewing Nick Fuentes in a verbal back massage. Candice Owens also joined along in that camp too.

      Now you have the Tucker-Candice camp at war with the Ben Shapiro camp, and Nick Fuentes attacking everyone because he’s a fucking moron even compared to the others.

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        It didn’t start there, but it came out into the open there. The Israeli camp in the US is very aggressive in trying to make the US like Israel and the occupied territories, to ghettoize the others here in this country.

        To that end they had a vision for turning point usa, to turn it into a sort of hitler youth, and to police students and faculty at k12 to higher education. Kirk had his own vision, rejected theirs, and their board p[r]icks for his own. Then got shot with something that wasn’t a high powered 30 ought six rifle in a situation that does not fit the official story given, and his widow leading the organization has embraced the Israeli in the US faction’s vision, and condemned those blaming Israel’s faction for it. Don’t let the association with a few far right figures fool you though, it’s true. Those few far right figures have turned against the Israel faction, and while Israel may tell us surreptitiously to discount everything they say because they impugn their motives, the ones impugning have the worst motives in the world, Israel’s faction are the fucking devil.

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        20 hours ago

        … The Aristocrats!

        (If anyone gets this reference I’ll be what scientists are calling “fucking surprised”)

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      There’s a big difference between being pro-state-of-Israel (Zionist), and being pro-jewish-people in general. They do not necessarily go hand in hand.

      Fundamentalist christians are typically Zionist because the state of Israel is necessary for the second coming of christ. It’s entirely self-serving, not a belief they hold because they like jewish people at all. So being zionist and also antisemitic is pretty common because people are racist assholes.

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        15 hours ago

        Plus they hate muslims at least as much or more than Jews, so the math still works out.

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        Nazis hide behind zionism, blame antizionists for naziism, because its all projection and they have no respect for our intelligence, which may have been warranted in your case.

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            Israelis are nazis so it gets complicated. But they all hate the muslims more in the first place. Some nazis want to otherize other groups than the jews, tradiationalist nazis in the US are on the outs with the establishment because they still otherize jewish peoples.

            But the Israeli aligned nazis, including the israelis themselves, are generally fine with otherizing the left jewish people to a degree. Long have been, it’s them that have long called them self hating and the like, the truth is jewish people in the US are far more left than the general population, but the minority of Israel nazis in the US is very rich and very connected and not inconsequential in number and are as we were saying in league with the religious right evangelicals and other crazies, that are both in an alliance with Big Business.

            That is where the rubber meets the road, the unholy alliance between religious extremists and Big Business. Both think they can control the political monster they bastardly fathered together in their unholy tryst with, I’m not sure who the mother is in this analogy, I want to say Medusa though.