I can’t. I just can’t.
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- crystalmerchant@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
Every technology is eventually used against you by the state
3 hoursIf this comes to Canada I’ll be driving an electric scooter or bike.
- Venator@lemmy.nzEnglish16 minutes
I’d recommend a 1995 Toyota, Nissan or Mitsubishi rather than a Ford 😅
- SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.orgEnglish7 hours
Cars have been privacy nightmares for quite a while. People simply do not care.
I care. But they make it really hard to remove or disable that shit.
- FUsername@feddit.orgEnglish10 minutes
I think, you better can buy cars without will that fancy shit and add features by aftermarket devices than doing it any using all that closed eco system crap from the manufacturer.
My car is constantly telling me to drive with both hands or yo get coffee when I am driving fine.
Many years ago I had a somewhat scary car accident and since I drive very cautiously and never speed. Yet this fucking thing is still yelling at me all the time.
If I could figure out how it decides to yell at me, I would unplug it.
What car is that? So that I know never to buy or suggest one
- 2 hours
Every new car has a million alerts and beeps and warnings and its sensory hell
Yeah the beeps and bongs are not a new thing. Clarkson raged about it 20+ years ago. “I KNOW THE DOOR IS OPEN THERES A HUGE GAP NEXT TO ME”
- Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish53 minutes
No, that’s not even close to how bad it is now. Hell, I bought a car that’s a decade old and the fucker yells at me for being to close to the lines, yells if I’m approaching a stopped car “too fast” (which means it freaks out even when I’m slowing past 25 with 4-5 SUV lengths ahead of me), when I back up and there’s anything remotely close off to the side (remotely close is the 2.5 ft on either side of me as I back out my driveway), and it gives me an extra special freak out if there’s any possible cross traffic to 4 houses on either side of me. That last one is a nice warning the few times I’ve needed it, but more often than not, it’s spazzing out over the neighbors taking their dog out on the other side of the street.
Yeah I didn’t mean to say that its been that bad forever. Its gotten worse in the last 10-15 years. But it started ages ago, back in the ancient times. I remember my 1987 Volkswagen had a buzzer if I had lights on when the ignition was off. That was a good thing to have tbh, especially back then. But now you get a warning bong just because you have a kilogram of apples on the back seat.
- [deleted]@piefed.worldEnglish30 minutes
I have a 2023 and while it does those things by default every single one of them can be turned off.
The front collision and the movement behind were left on because they occasionally help. Lane assist and the proximity got turned off immediately because of so many false alarms.
- MBech@feddit.dkEnglish5 hours
Many cars that can tell that, senses wether or not you give any resistance whenever it corrects the lane position. If it doesn’t feel any resistance, it’ll assume you’re not actually holding the steering wheel. Try keeping a firmer grip of the wheel.
- AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish1 hour
I have to admit to developing the habit of wiggling the steering wheel regularly. Unfortunately that doesn’t help for camera based systems
- brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish10 hours
Why are govts like this suddenly? All in a arms race against privacy?
- 3 hours
Because late stage capitalism, lobbyists pushed legislators to allow data collection so that it can be sold to insurance companies who also lobbied so that they can charge more for premiums.
Every company makes more profit.
We don’t live in a democracy anymore.
- 2 hours
Guillotine insurance companies. They’re just scummy middle-men that seek profit at the cost of everyone else
- Fluffy Kitty Cat@slrpnk.netEnglish4 hours
They’re scared of the likes of Luigi and paper Mario. More and more people are getting fed up
Not suddenly. It’s been going on at least as far back as 2001. Probably more. It’s generally not the gov’t either as the gov’t is mostly driven by moneyed private interests like large corporations. They always push in different ways to get more power to make profit. Get rid of a regulation, make new regulation, get a subsidy, limit rights to resist some abuse, etc. Sometimes it’s just more obvious that others in general, or it’s in an are we personally pay attention to, and we’re like WTAF.
- 9 hours
This was mandated by the 2021 infrastructure bill. I was hoping it got scrapped but apparently not.
https://futurism.com/the-byte/camera-cars-detects-drinking
A team of Australian scientists have cooked up a new AI-driven camera system that can detect whether you are too drunk to drive a vehicle.
But the project isn’t quite ready for wide use with only 75 percent accuracy, according to the researchers out of Edith Cowan University in Western Australia, who had presented this camera project at a computer vision conference earlier this year.
Should be interesting.
- leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish5 hours
I assume the system is working properly and 25% of drivers just drive as erratically sober as the other 75% blind drunk.
And that’s among the ones who managed to get to the study. The percentage would be higher if it took into account the ones who got lost or crashed on the way.
If that was true should be rolled out as that’s about the same thing. Those people shouldn’t drive / should go/back to driving school
- phutatorius@lemmy.zipEnglish5 hours
with only 75 percent accuracy
Unless they’re telling you the Type 1 and Type 2 error rates, they’re not worth a shit.
- grue@lemmy.worldEnglish9 hours
What the fuck? When did Congress pass this, and why wasn’t there a huge public outcry against it?
This shit is why biden didnt arrest trump. Democrats need him to drive voters their way. To use the trdump as a club to hit any one who has a independent thought.
- Gerudo@lemmy.zipEnglish8 hours
So how much is this tech going to raise already stupidly high car prices.
- Limonene@lemmy.worldEnglish8 hours
$100-$500 according to the article. No discount for the biometric data they’ll sell.
- doc@sopuli.xyzEnglish13 hours
And when all the used cars are gone and I’m forced to buy one of these I’ll promptly be destroying the radio transmitters and everything related to this surveillance.
- acosmichippo@lemmy.worldEnglish12 hours
the “surveillance” seems to happen on the car locally. Kind of an expansion of current driver attention systems to include impairment detection.
- XLE@piefed.socialEnglish12 hours
“Local” surveillance happening on the same car computer that’s attached to a SIM card.
Yeah seems safe
- FauxLiving@lemmy.worldEnglish11 hours
It’s local right until the law enforcement gets into Bluetooth range with the right encryption keys to download all of the data for the past year.
I remember when we discovered that militants in Afghanistan were monitoring Predator video feeds because apparently nobody had ever put in a requirement that the video stream be encrypted.
Militants in Iraq and Afghanistan have intercepted live video feeds from unmanned U.S. Predator drones using $26 off the shelf software made by a Russian company, says a report in the Wall Street Journal.
IIRC that was because the Predator video feeds were intended to be viewed in-theatre by officers right there on the front, and military protocol around encryption keys would have made it so no one at the front would have been able to decrypt the feed.
Considering they were designed in the early 90s, i.e. before public-key cryptography took off with SSL, that explanation always seemed plausible to me.
Reminder that this requires all vehicles be SOLD with the tech. It says nothing about what happens to it after purchase.
- 10 hours
Just pull the fuse for the onstar radio. It can log all it wants locally.
They prevented that from working years ago. Now it’s usually on a critical circuit that you can’t just disable.
- 10 minutes
My bolt euv doesn’t transmit after I pulled the fuse.
- greyscale@lemmy.grey.oooEnglish2 hours
Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
Every technical hurdle they put up, is defeatable.
Every time they make the wall higher, we make the ladder longer.
There will come a time where there will be a privacy-conscious choice and that might require flashing the infotainment system.
We’re getting closer to one of Cory Doctrows stories. I can’t find a direct link, but its on this page under the name “Plausible Deniability”
- 13 hours
It’ll be like every other car with driver assistance and every other advanced feature now, everything gets strapped to the same CANbus and unified powerttrain control module so disabling one part of the system causes the car to get stuck in limp mode, have constant nusiance alerts, and fail state inspections to get registered.
- MML@sh.itjust.worksEnglish7 hours
Good news is if you have an expensive enough car you’ll get an asshat mode.
- ski11erboi@lemmy.worldEnglish12 hours
I’m trying to figure out of this is just the distracted driving safety feature that’s been on every car I’ve bought in the last 6 years. If so it can be disabled and really isn’t that big of a deal when it’s enabled. Just sends you an alert when it detects you weaving within the lane a little too much. I can’t help but think this article might be a little sensationalistic.
And when they call the infotanmint crap a “safety feature” and no one lynched a lawmaker over it we know that as a people we have given up.
- 11 hours
It depends on the make but that’s when I feel cars tipped the scale to becoming appliances
- FauxLiving@lemmy.worldEnglish11 hours
2018 makes more sense, that’s when backup cameras were mandatory so since they were putting in a screen manufacturers made every car have an ‘infotainment’ center and with all of that processing power comes logging and other privacy invading features.
Really I don’t go past 2008 myself. That was a cliff car manufactures went off after the sub prime mortgage fun fun time.
Naaaaah, my 2016 RAV4 Hybrid is balling. Back up camera, 360 sensors, remote start, heated seats, medium screen with buttons and knobs instead of touch, push start, stick shift, and the best part: no wifi on-board (through my phone only). Cars peaked right here.
- 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish8 hours
I have a 2016 outback. No android auto… But I’m in the same boat. Backup camera. Sensors self driving no wifi no forced updates. Etc.
I don’t need anything more.
Praying for our cars to survive at least another 15 years, bud 🙏
