Employees admitted to 404 Media they had cheated to climb the leaderboard's ranks.
  • TwoTiredMice@feddit.dkEnglish
    2 hours

    A friend of my worked at a company where they had metrics on Claude code usage and some employees just started multiple agents on the same project where one was tasked to implement a feature and the other was tasked to remove that same feature…

  • merdaverse@lemmy.zipEnglish
    4 hours

    The idealized market was supposed to deliver ‘friction free’ exchanges, in which the desires of consumers would be met directly, without the need for intervention or mediation by regulatory agencies. Yet the drive to assess the performance of workers and to measure forms of labor which, by their nature, are resistant to quantification, has inevitably required additional layers of management and bureaucracy. What we have is not a direct comparison of workers’ performance or output, but a comparison between the audited representation of that performance and output. Inevitably, a short-circuiting occurs, and work becomes geared towards the generation and massaging of representations rather than to the official goals of the work itself.

    – Mark Fisher, Capitalist Realism

  • luciferofastora@feddit.orgEnglish
    7 hours

    If a metric becomes a target…

    How many times do we have to teach you the same lesson, old man?

  • criss_cross@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7 hours

    My company is doing this too. Measuring this and PR counts.

    What’s it about technical leadership and having no fucking clue how anything works?

    • architect@thelemmy.clubEnglish
      4 hours

      I don’t get it. Are they rewarding people for using it more? It’s not really a tool to reward over using more or less. Just seems strange.

      • criss_cross@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1 hour

        I think because tokens are the only measure of AI use bean counters have

        Moar tokens = Moar AI Literate

        Even though it’s super fucking easy to burn through tokens and it’s such a garbage metric to begin with.

  • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zipEnglish
    8 hours

    Oh no, did using stupid metrics backfire because people are smart enough to game the stupid metric?

  • TheFogan@programming.devEnglish
    12 hours

    Whole concept of “how much AI you used”, is so flipping stupid of a metric I can’t even wrap my head around. I mean even if we assume it’s their own AI they are using… that’s their power etc… That’s like a leaderboard for most gas used up, or miles driven by your truck drivers.

    • Kissaki@feddit.orgEnglish
      3 hours

      It only makes sense if

      • you want to drive up adoption because
        • you’re confident in usefulness already
        • want to find out about usefulness and need the userbase and usage for it
      • you have ulterior motives to push for AI adoption

      I can imagine leadership - disconnected from real work and any practical AI use experience - being misinformed and misguided into believing marketing and hype-cycle about gains. It also doesn’t seem implausible that leadership wants to drive up adoption to quickly gain feedback and results about usefulness and gains/loss.

      In good faith, it requires a certain mindset (no care about the waste or potential loss or risk) and distance from practice. Not implausible, though, in my eyes.

    • wiccan2@thelemmy.clubEnglish
      11 hours

      It’s the old lines of code metric style of thinking.

      The people in charge only know line go up means better and bigger number is better.

      Its only when things go wrong and someone ELI5 for them that they listen. And even then it’ll wear off in a week and they’ll be on to their next make the number bigger obsession.

    • jordanlund@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11 hours

      Nobody is asking the question “If you have to use AI that much, doesn’t that mean you aren’t very good at your job? 🤔”

    • CosmoNova@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10 hours

      Right? How do you even cheat on a ruleset this dumb? You don‘t. It was a stupid contest from the start.

      • GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        3 hours

        If they’re ranking you based on AI usage, they’re going to use that when they make decisions about raises and promotions. It may be a stupid contest but the employees are part of it whether they like it or not.

        You can bet your ass I’d be trying to pad my numbers.

        • CovertOperative@piefed.zipEnglish
          3 hours

          If they’re ranking you based on AI usage, they’re going to use that when they make decisions about raises and promotions.

          By not promoting the people on top of the ranking who can’t do things without AI and waste a lot of resources, right?

          …right?

    • GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      8 hours

      I mean miles driven is at least proportional to amount of useful work, more miles is more distance they’ve transported cargo. The AI usage leaderboard is useless.

      • TheFogan@programming.devEnglish
        3 hours

        Only if you assume that all miles are correctly headed towards the destination. 2 drivers are given the same 3 places to deliver packages to.

        one drives 2000 miles, the other 50.

        Admitted though now that I actually think about it, I guess we already have that level of stupid assumptions. After all the normal system of pay for many jobs is by the hour. Which I suppose has all the same flaws.

      • ThirdConsul@lemmy.zipEnglish
        8 hours

        No, because you can keep making circles around the hq. Miles go up, not useful at all.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11 hours

    Back in the day I worked at a place that gave everyone pedometers and encouraged everyone to get in at least 10,000 steps a day. Yes, employees were ranked.

    Guys in the machine shop figured out you could attach it to a power drill and register 10,000 steps in a couple of minutes.

    Why yes, yes the idea was discontinued after that…

    • ramble81@lemmy.zipEnglish
      6 hours

      Our company did something similar, but you could bring your own (like a Fitbit) and it would sync its data from Fitbit. The thing it didn’t check was the type of data it was getting. The Fitbit app allowed you to manually enter data, not just data it captured from the device. So this got sync’d to the company app as if it was actual data since it didn’t mark it any differently.

      I would sit in bed at night and enter a random feasible number every time to hit my goals and get a cut of those sweet rewards.

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.worldEnglish
      8 hours

      That’s a good idea. An alternative is to put it on your masturbating wrist, and rub one out. That’s got to go a long ways to the daily count. Probably works better for men than women.

      I knew someone who put it on their happy dog’s tail, and he wagged his way to 10K steps.

  • DeuxChevaux@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12 hours

    I worked once in a company where they noted down how many times each employee went to the toilet in a day. if you had the runs they would write you up. needless to say, I lasted just about 3 weeks before I quit.

    This here sounds very similarly stupid.

    • brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      5 hours

      I’d have called an employment lawyer. That can easily be discrimination for some medical conditions like crohns or IBS.

    • Midnight Wolf@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10 hours

      I mean just shit on the floor, they’ll get the message real quick. Just doin my job, efficiency is wet fart key to success!

    • ViscloReader@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10 hours

      What the fuck? Who has enough money/time in this world to keep tabs on toilet passage?

      • HailSeitan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6 hours

        Jim Beam, Amazon, Tyson Foods…the list of companies that monitor employee bathroom breaks is not short

      • DeuxChevaux@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10 hours

        It was easy. The bathrooms were near the entrance, where the receptionist could see us and tick their boxes…

        • Kissaki@feddit.orgEnglish
          3 hours

          Prime opportunity to leave some toilet paper on the receptionist’s desk after each visit.

        • ViscloReader@lemmy.worldEnglish
          8 hours

          Just imagine the scenario, you arrive at work and you see your boss at your desk with a smirk on his face. “Hello Carole, starting today I want you to keep tabs on those bathrooms got it?👏🙂”

          • DeuxChevaux@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6 hours

            But he, it’s 2026 now. We have AI toilets. The more often you have the runs, the more tokens you can use there. Go get your daily dose of castor oil and become a high-ranker.

        • Kissaki@feddit.orgEnglish
          3 hours

          With wireless microphones, maybe you can keep talking on the toilet. The company could even provide you with a laptop or tablet to take with you. D:

  • Snapz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11 hours

    I used AI to do all the AI for me and I won AI and now reward is fired…

  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11 hours

    Paywall.

    But yeah, I would have done exactly what I imagine they did - just waste as many tokens as possible in a loop, and continue actually working.

    Just kidding, I’d be updating my resume and interviewing elsewhere instead of working.