$1050 for 512gb no controller
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- 31 minutes
reasonable given the current situation but not reasonable in general. I’ll wait for prices to go down or my income to go up.
- 9 minutes
Wow, my prediction was pretty close. 7 months ago, I predicted that the Steam Machine prices would be $800-$900 for the 512GB model, and $1,000-$1,200 for the 2TB model.
That was in the middle of memory prices going vertical, and I still got down voted to hell by people claiming that they were expecting $600-$800 tops…
Honestly, with how bad memory has become even over the last 6 months, and the increased brutality to the market done by tariffs and the oil supply shock, I’m actually surprised they were able to hit $1,049 for the base model.
The hard truth: It’s an acceptable price within a piss-poor market. The harder truth: It will sell out extremely fast and won’t restock likely for months.
When Framework announced their new Framework 13 Pro line laptops last month, a lot of people balked at the price. $1,500 was the cheapest pre-built model, and DIY was basically the same price, unless you already had some components. The pricing for higher tier specs easily climbed to $2,000+
Still, they sold out of every model for the first 6-8 batches in a few days, and barely 2 months later, they are sold out to batch 15, with an expected delivery in October.
The K-shaped market is further becoming a reality. The people that have the money to drop on stuff like this, are happily dropping it. And the people who can’t afford it are getting left in the dust.
The scumbag oligarchs have created the cyberpunk dystopia, and most of us aren’t going to be living up in the shiny skyscrapers…
1 hourThey lost me at that price point, sadly. And I was really looking forward to this thing launching.
Valve makes damn good products, I’m rocking a Steam Deck and a SC in my personal collection, and love them both.
But my next PC upgrade was looking to be just that… a power upgrade. That was the main focus.
The small form factor, the excellent presentation, and the Valve quality that we all know this is going to have… they would have been nice. But right now I’m looking for equal or better than SM performance regardless of form factor, and I have my sights set on several possible options to get that, all of which are at least a couple of hundred dollars cheaper. Sorry Gabe.
- 43 minutes
8gb of vram in 2026 is not what a “good product” would have. It also costs more than a similar diy pc, performs worse and can’t be upgraded. This thing is doa.
- 19 minutes
It can absolutely be upgraded, DIY is always going to be cheaper, and at current prices more ram would cause an outsized price increase compared to the performance gains.
8GB vram is perfectly acceptable for the performance level of this box.
Not Valve fault, but at this point i just feel lucky to have brought the Deck Oled before of all this ram shitshow.
- 5 hours
I wonder how much it would’ve cost if we didn’t have a dumb mother fucker in charge and greedy rich bastards weren’t hoarding all the supplies
- 3 hours
speculation says 750ish. which really would have been perfect
https://steamdeckhq.com/news/valve-steam-machine-original-price/
it’s not just the one dumb motherfucker in charge, it’s practically the entire goddamn government. anyone who isn’t vocally outspoken against AI companies and aiming to put a hard stop to their data centers is fully responsible for any and all harm they’re currently causing (and the hardware inflation is such a minor part of said harm).
anyway abolish capitalism and send techbros to the guillotines
- 37 minutes
Reorganize our economic system into one in which the means of production, ie factories, farms, utilities etc, are collectively owned by the people instead of being owned by the rich elite who take all profit for themselves.
- 27 minutes
I’m not sure, but let’s live a little, try something new and see where it goes.
- 2 hours
it’s practically the entire goddamn government.
Why don’t you draw the logical conclusion, and realize it’s the American population that elected the dumb motherfucker that is responsible for the entire administration. And the American population that also elected a congress that doesn’t do anything!
For fucks sake, Americans elected an obvious psychopath for president, with an equally psychopathic vice president!!!
Edit:
I’m guessing the downvotes are Americans that are in denial, because the above claims are undeniable facts, except the motherfucker part, which is rhetoric I borrowed from the previous posts.- 29 minutes
The American people are some of the most propagandised on Earth. Our education has been eroded over decades and we are steeped in a media sphere almost entirely owned by the wealthy which constantly discredits anything remotely socialist and tells almost nothing but lies about the outside world. People can’t even usually protest in a serious way without losing their jobs, and therefore their healthcare and housing. When protesters burned down the police station in Minneapolis in 2020, that was ranked with a higher approval rating than nearly any politician elected at the time.
Even if a good candidate is elected, the power comes from the wealthy, they will subvert any thing progressive using their trillions of dollars and surveillance panopticon.
So a lot of Americans did vote for this horrific administration, but most people don’t even know what they are voting for, and voter turnout is egregiously bad because most people don’t feel they can even trust what they are told about politics.
- 23 minutes
Even if a good candidate is elected, the power comes from the wealthy,
Exactly, taking your country back, should start with taxing the rich heavily, not with giving them even lower taxes. That would be a good start for Americans.
Electoral politics means nothing when the entire issue is rooted in the very foundations of the country and capitalism as a whole. One dumbass being elected isn’t an anomaly, he’s an inevitable symptom of the problems that have been there for ages.
- 2 hours
So are you one of those that claim that Republicans and Democrats are the same?
That having a Republican controlled congress with a Republican president is the same as if they were both Democrat?because if you answer that with a yes, I think I’m just gonna block you.
Edit:
Really downvoted for saying the truth? Americans sure like their delusions and false equivalences. 🤮🤮🤮
Apparently Valve said to look at the Steam Deck price hike for a clue. So probably around $750 for the base model.
- 3 hours
LTT got a bit of a guess from Valve, the estimate is that the price was adjusted roughly in line with the recent Steam Deck increase.
Puts it about 850 or so for the base model if I’m estimating properly, but that is going from announcement to now, not all the way back to the beginning of all this mess.
- bunnyBoy@pawb.socialEnglish5 hours
Honestly surprised that they hit that price point with the way things are going. Still don’t need one so I won’t buy one, but about 1000 was what I was expecting
- 2 hours
Good(?) news! You can spend almost that much for the 2TB with a controller.
- 4 hours
Same for me. I was expecting like $1200 for the base model which nobody should pay that much for such middling specs.
But still $1k is way more than I’d pay for an HTPC. I’d much rather the steam link approach and use streaming to my already nice and powerful desktop. I guess this is a nice thing to point newbies who want a box that should “just work” and don’t already have something and don’t want to build.
- 4 hours
This is for people who don’t have a nice and powerful desktop.
They didn’t stop development of the link explicitly for people like you?
- 1 hour
Obviously, no shit. I never meant to imply that this was targeted at me. But I know multiple people who already have a high end computer who would also like this for their living room.
If it was $600 like I’d originally hoped I’d be interested. I wasn’t going to get one day 1, but I’d have picked one up once they’re consistently in stock. But $1000 for mid specs is rough for anyone. Just like the steam controller, Valve has made another hyper niche device.
The price for everything went up. That “mix spec” PC you were going to build? That went up by the same amount, if not more by the time this is all over
- 45 minutes
You’re still paying the premium for getting a low power parts in a small form factor. At half the price it’s a lot easier to justify to someone who doesn’t really care. But at almost twice the price that FPS per dollar difference is a lot higher.
This random ass power spec computer is going to kick the shit out of the steam machine. Again if size isn’t a concern. And I’m sure actual oems have smaller pcs with less compromised performance.
- 3 hours
I’m convinced hardly anybody on Lemmy has a functioning theory of mind.
- 2 hours
For that kind of money, I may end up building my own running on Bazzite. That’s not to say I don’t like it, it looks bad-ass, but 1K+ for that hardware is a bit much. I’m thinking I can build something a bit more powerful for 100 or 200 dollars less.
- 2 hours
I really wanted one, but at this price point I can build a considerably more capable mATX PC. If I had a living room screen I might consider it, but as a pure gaming PC it doesn’t work for me.
- 29 minutes
The problem is that it can still be used as a PC. In this case they cannot sell it at a loss and expect to make up for it with their 30% cut on steam games, because other people might buy it as their cheap office PC without ever using steam.
- 3 hours
Anyone know if I can upgrade the storage? I have a 1 TB nvme stick in on old laptop I could slap in there, not sure if I can though.
- 2 hours
Apparently supports NVMe 2230 or 2280 sizes. You will have to remove the 512 though.
- 39 minutes
There’s 2TB NVME drives on Amazon for less than the price delta. Worth it
- 2 hours
there’s also a micro sd card slot, for less demanding storage needs
- 1 hour
Yup, yup, and a USB-C.
I grabbed one of these for the Steam Deck:
https://www.kingston.com/en/external-ssd/xs2000-external-usb-c-solid-state-drive?capacity=2tb
- 5 hours
It’s obviously not Valve’s fault but man, that’s expensive. Wasn’t planning on getting one anyway, but it certainly makes me worried about what the Frame may cost.
Anyone here planning on getting one? I do wonder how much of a market there is for it at this price.
- 2 hours
I signed up to get one the moment I heard about the price. I like gaming on my PC, but I much prefer playing certain games on the big screen in the living room. Likewise, my partner has gotten used to the Steam Deck’s UI so it’ll be great to get her more into gaming.
The Steam Deck + Dock is what I currently use, but playing everything in 720p upscaled to 1080 (or just playing indie games) is pretty frustrating.
And I’ve used moonlight/steam streaming/even Nvidia gamestream (I have an Nvidia shield) - while they’re fine solutions, I don’t like the compression artifacts of streaming. Also annoys me that the game physically renders on my computer.
So, yeah, TL;DR I want a Steam Machine. I’m also excited to use desktop mode on occasion. And when the machine finally runs its course, it’ll be a nice looking server for the closet!
- 3 hours
I was going to but only existing steam accounts can pre order. I get it, but trying to go from console as a poor just feels impossible at this point.
- Random Dent@lemmy.mlEnglish3 hours
I genuinely can’t see any reason to get one. Like… if you’re a PC gamer with enough spare cash to get one, you can probably get a better gaming PC for the same money. If you’re a console gamer, there’s no reason to switch because the 512gb with no controller is almost double the cost of a five year old PS5, which has better specs and a controller, plus you’d have to buy all your games again, if they’re even available on Steam (and also if they even work in Linux.) The only thing I think it could be be good for is as a budget gaming PC, but it’s wildly over-priced for that.
Not Valve’s fault of course, but yeah there’s no way for me personally.
Is the frame more expensive hardware? Can we make any sort of reasonable determination on frame price now that we know the gabecubes cost?
At announcement I was hoping $700, which I don’t see happening. Are we still expecting index pricing or is that not happening?
… Well the quest 3 is $600. They can’t be too far from that can they? I mean I’d pay $1000 on the frame before I gave meta $600, but most people don’t have the same hate for meta that I do.
- 3 hours
I think that $600 is a subsidized price and not really useful for comparison. I would expect the Frame to be at least $1000. The hardware likely is more expensive overall since it also includes displays. They aren’t high end screens but they still add significant cost. It is probably more expensive to assemble each Frame compared to the Steam Machine also. I wouldn’t be surprised if the low end model is $1500+
That would absolutely kill it, at least for me. $700-800 sold. 1k, harder to justify to the wife, but probably still getting it. 1500, well my rift-s is still pretty good I guess.
- 4 hours
The frame sure aint gonna be cheap hardware. 0% chance it can match the quest in price. But since it doesn’t need as much storage I’m hoping it’ll be 700-800. But I wouldn’t blink if it’s $1000. Valve just doesn’t have the economies of scale Meta will.
- 4 hours
It’s hard to say, but at least before the component shortages, I would have expected the Frame to be the more expensive device. After all, it has 2 included controllers, displays, batteries, tracking cameras etc. But maybe the lower memory and storage (if you go for the 256GB) along with its mobile SoC might help reduce the effects of the component crisis somewhat. I don’t expect it to be below 1k€ though, personally.
- 3 hours
Anyone here planning on getting one?
I might get a 2tb. If I don’t game on it, I might swap the Linux version and use it for work. We have standardized in fully decked out System76 Meerkats with Proxmox VE serving jump hosts to manage different clients, so I can use it for that, or I can leverage the GPU and use it for datadump and log analysis. The point is, that it wouldn’t be money wasted. Ideally, I’d like to play games on it though.
EDIT: Looking at the Gamer’s Nexus review they state upfront that performance is limited, so I honestly don’t see why I should get this over a Meerkat.
EDIT 2: Nevermind. The Meerkat has almost doubled in price and is Intel only now. So the Steam Machine is back on the menu.
Much as I would love an upgrade to my Steam Deck (which I mostly used docked), I can’t justify more than $500, much less $1000. Glad I snagged the $400 LCD Steam Deck when I did. The Steam Deck price hikes prompted me to get a Switch 2, as I don’t see any other new sub-$500 consoles coming out for a long, long time.
I really wanted one, but now it’s an easy wait for at least some kind of sale.
Edited to add, just finished reading and watching a round of reviews and honestly don’t think I even want one anymore.
- 4 hours
I don’t think they’ve ever had any sales for hardware. The only discounted hardware I’ve seen was the refurbished Deck. If you don’t want specifically Valve-branded hardware, you’re probably better off building a proper PC from comparable second-hand parts.
They have absolutely had sales on their hardware. I am pretty sure they’ve put deck on sale every year since it came out.
As for building my own, yeah I know, and I’ve considered it many times. But I absolutely dread working in small form factor, and this thing’s size was one of the main appeals for me.
They’ve definitely had new steam decks on sale before. Mine was 20% off just last year.
- 4 hours
That was before the RAM shortage. It’s going to be at least 1 full year before RAM price start going down and they can offer discounts. Unless the AI bubble pops. And that’ll have huge economic consequences.
- 4 hours
The original Steam Controller and Steam Link went on sale for about 5€ each just before they were phased out. OG Steam Deck also had some smaller discounts.
- 2 hours
I did the promise with witnesses and all to get one at least in year 2 if it launches with Half life 3 just cause the memes I haven’teven player HL ever. If it drops to 600 or so I’m getting it.
- femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish4 hours
I have been waiting for the price to see about replacing my Xbox series S as I degoogling/M$ as much as possible. I just want a streaming box that I can play light games on.
Steep as shit but still somehow cheaper than expected. We love AI bullshit destroying the entire hardware market hell yeah
- 2 hours
It’s too expensive, it’s just not a good idea for them to have released this. Honestly, they probably should have delayed it for 1-2 years or likely even cancelled it outright.
What they should have done is made a new Steam Link with more capable hardware for cheap. That would have sold like hotcakes.
People don’t want to pay $1050 USD for 16GB of RAM and a 512GB SSD. People can’t afford to be casually dropping money like that in this economy.
- 60 minutes
I don’t think the target was the same people that would buy a link, the link is for someone that already has a pc. Meanwhile I think the steam machine was meant to compete with the consoles and gather new users into the steam ecosystem and then the price got hammered and took it out of that position.
- 1 hour
What they should have done is made a new Steam Link with more capable hardware for cheap. That would have sold like hotcakes.
The Steam Link was pretty much a dumb terminal for VNC. In what way does it need to have “more capable hardware?”
- 4 hours
Steam Machine 512GB: $1,049 USD / 1,509 CAD / 1,039 EUR / 879 GBP / 1,609 AUD / 4,389 PLN
Bundle: Steam Machine 512GB + Steam Controller: $1,128 USD / 1,628 CAD / 1,108 EUR / 938 GBP / 1,728 AUD / 4,698 PLN
Steam Machine 2TB: $1,349 USD / 1,919 CAD / 1,359 EUR / 1,149 GBP / 2,109 AUD / 5,739 PLN
Bundle: Steam Machine 2TB + Steam Controller: $1,428 USD / 2,038 CAD / 1,428 EUR / 1,208 GBP / 2,228 AUD / 6,048 PLN
Both the Steam Machine 2TB and 2TB bundle options come with two additional faceplates: red fabric, and solid walnut.
- 4 hours
To me, at this point it makes no sense to go with 512gb model, if you pay already that much money. The limitations of 512 is too extreme in my opinion.
- 4 hours
And if you get the controller bundle, you save $20 over buying it separately.
- 4 hours
You also save 9 months of waiting on the pre-order list but neither is a good selling point.
- 3 hours
My guess is part of the reason for the controller shortages is they reserved a bunch to do these bundles.
- ryper@lemmy.caEnglish5 hours
410 CAD to go from 512GB to 2TB, and sadly that’s pretty much just what a 2TB drive costs these days.
- 2 hours
Yep. Storage prices are insane.
price shown in USD not including tax/vat
- 3 hours
I think it does include two additional faceplates, including the walnut veneer
- 4 hours
Steam Machine, like our other hardware products, is made up of many components that we source from manufacturers around the world. The price at which we sell our hardware is a direct result of the cost of these components. We felt like we had a good understanding of how those costs might change over time when we first started sourcing them for Steam Machine back in 2023. That understanding was born from the many years of data we all have about the evolution of PC hardware prices – primarily, that it tends to get cheaper over time as new technology arrives.
Over the past year or so, that has changed quickly and significantly, most visibly for RAM and storage components. There are a variety of reasons, all of which are affecting hardware products everywhere. The overall effect is that our original goal for the price of Steam Machine is no longer viable. So the prices we’re sharing today reflect the state of the world for manufacturing; or, more accurately, it reflects the price of the components as we’ve secured them over the past 6 months.
Price wasn’t the only thing impacted by all of this: availability was as well. There were periods where we found we couldn’t source some of our components at all, at any price. More than anything else, this has impacted the number of units we’ve been able to produce for launch.
Also:
If I don’t get a Steam Machine right away, is there anything else I can do?
Thanks to the openness of the PC platform, there are lots of options for devices that will allow you to run games natively or streamed to your TV. There are many PC sites and communities out there that can help you with that. For our part, we are continuing to work toward enabling SteamOS to be used on more hardware than just ours. In fact, with the newly-released SteamOS 3.8, you can run the same code and operating system as Steam Machine on your own living-room PC using whatever PC parts you want:
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/65B4-2AA3-5F37-4227 . Right now, only AMD GPUs are supported, but we’re working on expanding support for the future.
