• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 hours

      The secretly don’t want to manufacture them so they make them look like shit?

      Obviously they can be made to look normal, the Ford Lightning & Mach E, Lucid, Polestar, and even a Tesla all look pretty normal and arguably some look really nice. But ask a mainstream manufacturer to make an EV car and they look stupid half the time. The Prius finally doesn’t look like it’s trying to virtue signal with its ugliness, so designs can be improved too.

      • labsin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1 hour

        I don’t agree on the Prius. The 2026 version has worse consumption and a smaller trunk so it could look more like any other SUV. People buy these cause they are the best economics for the size and Toyota made it more like “what they think a phev suv should look like”. I’d say that’s the opposite of your point.

        • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1 hour

          2024 and 2026 Prius both show 57/56 city/highway economy on fueleconomy.gov for the most economic models. The 2022 shows 54/50, the 2019 58/53.

          So it looks like average economy has improved.

          As for cargo, that’s unfortunate to lose space, but if they can get more people to buy the car because it looks more “normal” then that’s better, no?

    • betanumerus@lemmy.caEnglish
      2 hours

      People who drive gas cars personally, make ugly EVs. They don’t build cars for themselves, they build cars for what their prejudiced minds think EV drivers want. The problem here is probably that none of the Ferrari leadership drives an EV.

    • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6 hours

      I imagine that’s the issue, that it does in fact not look like a Ferrari, when it is supposed to be a Ferrari.

      • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        6 hours

        Yeah definitely, like if Audemars Piguet released watches that didn’t look like an Audemars Piguet they’d definitely get a similar reaction from similar clientele.

    • TIEPilot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3 hours

      Its growing on me. And the rims as an old GenX’er didn’t Vector have a set like that w/ the Bi-Turbo/Twin Turbo? I like the “Jet Turbine” look of them.

      .

      But I can see why an EV Ferrari would get backlash from the purists. Its not a traditional ICE race car. That said I see racing going to EV as the torque is insane on electric. We are already seeing it in drag bikes

      .

      Another prediction on EVs, their charging bottle neck will be filled by standardized batteries that can be removed by a robot.

      .

      Like a car wash you pull up, a clanker comes up from the floor and removes your batteries. They go into inventory to charge and can be cell by cell inspected and charged batteries are installed. 10 minutes TOPS.

      .

      This fixes recycling and repair. I’m sure I’m not the first to think of this, but its going to happen.

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      Oh and your correct this looks NOTHING like a Ferrari, I mean not even “Ferrari Red®”???

      We need better formatting of text on here asap,

      • dogslayeggs@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2 hours

        Like a car wash you pull up, a clanker comes up from the floor and removes your batteries. They go into inventory to charge and can be cell by cell inspected and charged batteries are installed. 10 minutes TOPS.

        This is already being done in China.

    • hushable@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6 hours

      I saw an image edit with a Toyota Prius badge and I legit liked it

          • finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            3 hours

            Tbh I don’t know high-end cars well enough to tell the difference. I thought some of the older Ferrari designs had that angular front, though?

        • xthexder@l.sw0.comEnglish
          2 hours

          Honestly, too many Cybertruck vibes for my taste. Maybe it’s better from other angles

          • finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            1 hour

            I feel like this what a more finished design of the cybertruck could have been. Personally, I like the sharp angles and strong lines on this car (to clarify, the cybertruck is fugly and has no redeeming qualities) and hope we see more of this style in the future.

    • billwashere@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6 hours

      I totally agree. It looks like a startup made a concept of a vehicle in a movie. It’s not ugly by any means ugly but when I see a Ferrari I KNOW it’s a Ferrari. Same way with a McLaren or a Lamborghini.

  • SaraTonin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2 hours

    This seems like two unrelated stories. It wasn’t his decision to buy the car, nor did he design it. So it seems unlikely that he’s resigning because people don’t like the design or idea of it

  • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zipEnglish
    6 hours

    The company’s shares plunged by 8% the day after the Luce was unveiled.

    Lol. They let an iPhone designer design a Ferrari, and it really shows.

    Whoever designed that smooth as a booger look clearly didn’t have a poster with Ferrari on it, in their room, as a kid.

    I would sell their stock too, if I had any.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2 hours

    Eh, they make boring looking SUVs, and a good chunk of their lineup is just expensive sporty sedans coupes. Not really surprised they’re making an EV, but it’s pretty ugly.

    Guess they wanted a “unwanted stepchild” that couldn’t be associated with the design style of the rest of the fleet. They certainly succeeded with that.

    Edit: apparently I’ve woken the Ferrari fans.

    The Purosangue is an SUV. A sedan can be either two or four door for the record. You’ll have to forgive my casual use of “sedan”, it should be coupe or similar.

    • dogslayeggs@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 hours

      Umm… I don’t think Ferrari makes either SUVs or sedans. You might try calling one of their models an SUV if you are really stretching the definition. Only one of their cars in their entire history has had 4 doors.

  • Nollij@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    3 hours

    How did they get to unveiling without anyone reviewing the design? Or did everyone inside Ferrari sign off on it as being acceptable?

    • Munkisquisher@lemmy.nzEnglish
      2 hours

      They bypassed a large chunk of the Ferrari design and engineering and marketing team, who hate it with fierce Italian passion. They think management have betrayed their history

  • shweddy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5 hours

    How hard is it to put a battery on a testarossa.
    Dumbasses tried to reinvent the ev

  • ChicoSuave@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5 hours

    Ferrari has one of the greatest design teams in Pininfarina yet they choose a person famous for making a rounded rect to make a totally new product. This is what they get for their poor choices.

    • melroy@kbin.melroy.org
      5 hours

      Lol it’s so ugly… It’s not that hard to create an EV. Which can also be beautiful.

  • halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish
    10 hours

    There was no reason to make it look so out of place, unless they actually wanted to tank sales. Nothing about its look is necessitated by the EV drive train versus ICE.

    That’s not a marketing issue, that’s whoever approved that design. Which, to be fair, may be the marketing boss depending on how their corporate structure is.

    • SeductiveTortoise@piefed.socialEnglish
      9 hours

      Yeah, true. But to be honest, as the marketing boss he has to defend that bullshit thing and I wouldn’t stand for it as well.

    • Spacehooks@reddthat.comEnglish
      9 hours

      Seriously marketing has so much power in my company. They dictate what products get developed. Meanwhile my so company they are treated like jesters.

  • ExFed@programming.devEnglish
    8 hours

    The thing that gets me is when car designers make a car that’s trying to be something it’s not. It’s an EV, not an ICE vehicle. If anything, amplify the motor hum under load (accelerating). Don’t simulate engine sounds. We’re tired of living in a simulation.

    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zipEnglish
      8 hours

      In my view, the EV-drivers are the idiots. Although I’d prefer “ignorants” as those can be smart and dumb.

      EVs are almost 100% cloud-cars full with surveillance and subscriptions and everything bad that comes with it. Not to say EVs are inherently bad, they aren’t. I would love one, technically speaking. I also love tech and gadgets. But not this level of remote control over “my” car.

      I went from Bentley to cheap dumb cars over the years just because they all do it, some more some less. And EVs are the top of the “modern” shit. But the “entry-level” cars are still only filled with the basics. Even haptic buttons and dials (beside a damn touchscreen though).

      You will own nothing, rent everything, and be happy about. I won’t.

      • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        7 hours

        Modern ICE cars have the exact same telemetry, even at the lower end models now. There are ways to circumvent some of the monitoring by deliberately terminating their antennas however. It really depends on the model though and whatever documentation regular drivers would be willing to share. My EV was modified this way and now I have a tiny reminder on the corner of the console that it can’t connect.

        This is all a bandaid of course. We either come up with a gray market of workarounds or we demand legislation to remove this shit in a privacy bill. Considering we have a mandate by Congress starting in 2027 to install AI equipped driver facing cameras to disable the car if the driver even vaguely looks incapacitated shows that it would be a massive uphill battle however.

      • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        6 hours

        Youre right in that new cars are all shit. But that goes for ICE and EV.

        Rolling surveillance mobiles and unrepairable. Total garbage.

        Old (note, old to me means 70s or 60s, but I think younger folks now think 90s is old, so I’ll go with that) was better in every way. I’ll take a 99 civic over any new car today. Though id say about 2012 is peak if you want more comforts (I do not). Really sucks we allowed the government and corporations to fuck up cars so bad.

  • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    5 hours

    I’m confused, are people really butthurt because it doesn’t look exactly like every other car Ferrari has put out? This is literally not even the first car they’ve put out that doesn’t look like a classic Ferrari. They literally make a SUV now. Sometimes I feel like people are just upset whenever a company that traditionally makes ICE cars all of a sudden start making an EV.

    • Nouvellalia@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4 hours

      Slapping their name on a dumpy SUV was a a stupid cash grab too. For me, the difference is that I expected it to be a dumpy cash grab to separate mcmansioners from their poolhouse money.

      If Ferrari said “we’re going to release a little electric, suburban grocery-getter”, my response would have been “well that looks about right”. Just like with the SUV.

      When I hear Ferrari is releasing their “first electric car” my mind immediately starts thinking about what kind of little mean monster they could release with all that torque. I am disappointed when I see what looks like another dumpy cash grab, but this one is for missy mcmansion to take to her first day of college.

      But then again, I care for speed alone. The scream of an ic engine is neat but to me, secondary. There are probably plenty of gasheads who are just pissy because “electricity is liberal” or something.

      • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3 hours

        I’m not really sure how to respond to this. On the one hand Ferrari went public recently so this should’ve been more expected. On the other hand your use of the term missy mcmansion takes this comment a little too far into the sexist realm for me. I didn’t want to believe that people actually had a problem with this thing not looking “macho” but I guess that’s the world we live in.

        In the meantime it can still do 0 to 60 in like two seconds…

        • Nouvellalia@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2 hours

          It’s not sexist to think it looks like a car for people who want a cute, little compact car that lets everyone know they have scratch. That’s just what it looks like.

          “Missy mcmansion” could easily be a young man who wants those things in a car. He will likely embrace the term because he doesn’t think women and their associated descriptors are inherently “less than”. This looks looks like a car for a cute purse, a blowout, and a manicure.

          I didn’t use “missy” to denigrate. I used it as marker for lifestyle choices regardless of sex or gender. You certainly picked up on my dripping distaste, but it’s because I think the car looks silly, just like the SUV, and neither fit my lifestyle choices. When I think the big matcho SUV is dumb, am I being sexist?

          If it makes you feel any better, I always loved the Miata, because it looks like she’s got skin under her nails, cute but not to be played with lightly, and that fits my aesthetic just fine.

          Edit: lol, you’re mad because I said “bottom energy” and you thought “woman energy” and had to put your misogynistic thoughts on me to make yourself feel better after I explained it 😝