• YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
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    Let’s be honest now: it’s common knowledge, even in America, that everyone from Thiel to Chomsky, passing through the entire political apparatus, was friends with Epstein and putting 2 and 2 together you understand that the closer the relationship, the more kids that were fucked. Do we need a picture? Several videos? This whole “release the files” is nothing but something Americans say to soothe their souls, as if they truly needed more proof, as if the files being released would trigger an anti-imperialistic, prosocial revolution that puts all of this behind (excess in this way comes easy to those who already don’t respect human life, like those who are already murdering and pillaging merrily, these things are connected because they all come from a vacuum of morals and ideology besides “fuck you, I got mine”, lol). Come on, now.

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      No, it’s not “soothing” to say “release the files that prove Trump raped children”. We say it because we still want to believe there is, in fact, a line too evil to cross for MAGAts. Something so despicable, it breaks their idol. Nothing else has worked properly yet. Will this?

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      I don’t understand this take. Trump has a huge following that won’t believe any evidence, but besides those fucks, evidence will always hold value to anyone not in that cult. It might even snap a few of them out of it.

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        Exactly, and in the future it can also be used. It can be used in conjunction with other efforts. It allows to report on these things with hard facts that provides levels of protection, even in the current system. And if anyone looks up from their cult-dream, there is gonna be something strong to look at.

        Saying it’s “to soothe the soul” to shining light on truth of such dimensions is incredibly ignorant.

        Also, if it’s so meaningless and won’t change anything, it’s pretty weird they fight hard on every front to keep it away.

        I think some people are very limited in their understanding of how it can be utilized.

        Guess there’s no point writing, investigating, or sharing anything about cults either, since many still exist and people are so stuck in them.

        Also, with less than 1% selectively, and heavily redacted released, I wouldn’t believe anyone who makes assumptions about the entirety of its contents.

        Sorry, OP. I’m sure you mean well and are being genuine, but to me this isn’t thought through far enough and stupid defeatism in essence.

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      If anybody in any position of power therr was innocent they’d do it themselves. Given what everybody “knows” I’d want my name as cleared as possible.

      I personally believe its simply a blackmail game where “we’re all in this together now” and theres only a handful of evil thats sticking to everyone even remotely involved, but the more this drags on the less I believe it.

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        I genuinely think that there’s a point in every political career (probably at about the mid-to large city level) where you go to a networking event and they take you into a back room with a kid and tell you to rape them on camera or your career ends there. I don’t think it’s possible to reach any position of real power without letting the existing powers have some kind of blackmail material on you.

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          Pretty much. Showbiz is close, except you’re the one selling your body to some gross old white dude with jowls, and it’s no secret for instance there was a “blonde boom” back in the Weinstein days because that’s what he liked to fuck.

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        They were always in there together but somewhere down the line they had some dispute amongst themselves and the whole Epstein thing happened and now the cat’s out of the bag and the situation has to be managed but everyone is trying not to lose face whilst doing it, or it was a miscalculation by Mossad (Epstein was Mossad, just in case you were not aware), or one by an American three letter agency. Regardless, they were always in there together, even American “leftist heroes” (if they’re not silenced and live freely in America when the empire kills innocents around the world for less, one should be wary), and there are enough publicly available pictures for anyone to understand that whatever colour your team is, they’re in cahoots, get paid by the same folk and touch the same kids.