Bitwarden 100% price increase

Quite easy to fork the client.

Getting it to install through the various stores? Probably not.

Pretty much this. Cloud storage isn’t perfect, but it sure does make proper 3-2-1 backup hygiene easier. 3 backups, on 2 different mediums, 1 of them off site. Cloud storage accomplishes both the 2 and 1, because it is both a different medium and off site.

The fact that you can automatically sync remotely is a big bonus too, because off-site backups historically have a problem where they fall out of date without active attention. For instance, if you have a tape backup system stored in a warehouse across town, those tapes are only as up-to-date as the last time you took the time to drive across town and update them. But with cloud storage, you can automatically sync your folders to keep things up to date in near real time. Plus, your traditional off-site backup is only as secured from things like natural disasters if you’re willing to travel fairly long distances to make them. Those tapes in a warehouse across town won’t survive if the entire town is hit by a natural disaster like a wildfire or flood.

For instance, maybe I make an update on my laptop, and then want to access it on my phone. Even with SyncThing, my laptop and phone won’t sync with each other unless they’re able to find each other on the same network. If I’m not on a trusted network at the time, (e.g. I’m at work on my employer’s WiFi, or traveling and using hotel WiFi) that makes syncing difficult. But with cloud storage, they can both essentially use that as a relay. My laptop updates the cloud, and then my phone pulls that update. Now both devices are up-to-date without actually needing to discover each other on a trusted network.

You can have both and keep a local copy via export once in a while. If the cloud goes down the also most likely your bank website. If you’re talking about other types of secrets then the first sentence will apply

I’ve tried storing encrypted blobs including a keepass database on Google drive and I always end up with hundreds of conflict copies

This might be a good option for you: https://elfhosted.com/

Use Tailscale. Don’t expose the port to the public. You’re good to go. On iOS, the Tailscale app allows for on demand joining of your Tailscale network (when you’re off from your home network for example). This makes it easy. On Android it’s not as direct, can use Tasker to achieve this, it’s not great. But there’s a feature request on their repo too.

Alternatively, there’s Netbird which behaves similarly. I haven’t tried it, but have read good things about it.

Neither are US based as well if that’s a concern for you. Tailscale is Canadian, and Netbird is German. Netbird is completely open source. With Tailscale, the CLI and Android apps are open source, and there’s an open source alternative to the control server called Headscale. But honestly, using their free tier is probably enough (for both services).

Would you be okay with synchronizing only when you’re on your own Wi-Fi network? If that’s the case, you don’t have to try exposing anything to the Internet.

You can also purchase a server online to install it on, but you’re going to get saddled with some kind of monthly fee there.

Then use Keepass, which is literally just a local app.

I’ve had my VPS exposed to the internet for a while and never been pwned. No professional experience. Use SSH keys, not password authentication. Use FDE if physical access is in your threat model. Use a firewall to prevent connection on internal-only ports.

Vaultwarden will store your passwords encrypted (obviously) so even if your database does get stolen, the attacker shouldn’t be able to read your passwords without your master password.

I never get this excuse except for ignorance (not being mean to you)—you can export your entire db as a text file then encrypt it if you wanted. Also, if your server goes offline its offline first on all devices

Thing is, a large percentage of internet-connected users might have two or more devices. The simplicity offered by a cloud (be it hosted or selfhosted) password manager is a huge benefit.

And unless you’re already running a syncthing-like service for something else, setting it up just for a password manager when other services provide it out of the box, is not worth the hassle usually.

IMO Keepass and Bitwarden aren’t exactly the same, as the latter has cross-device sync built-in.

I can’t think of a reason to choose Keepass over Vaultwarden.

so is bitwarden. i dont get your argument here. bitwarden does a lot more for free than keepass

That’s the one I got too.

Just note if your company uses Bitwarden enterprise, you’re eligible for a free personal license. (Unless they changed that)

Interesting. I also had mine come through but it had a different message:

Your Bitwarden Families subscription renews in 15 days. The price is updating to $3.99/month, billed annually.

Questions? Contact [email protected]

It seems there’s a few variants of the message depending on which product you have and not all of them mention the annual price.

Possibly but the main thing we find useful is the OTP generation. This means we can both use shared accounts without having to ask the other for a code. That’s probably an edge case, and not enough sites support it, but it’s really nice for the ones that do.

I doubt that is available in self-hosting but I’d be happy to be wrong about that. I have a raspberry pi serving up a couple of local things and I could register a domain if I had a use case for connectivity outside the house.