Let’s hope it’s actually true.
- RamRabbit@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
That’s what they said a month ago, then they decided that ‘remove copilot from notepad’ meant ‘rename copilot in notepad’.
- XLE@piefed.socialEnglish2 months
I remember reading that plan and being shocked about how good it sounded. And then they did the exact opposite of every single thing they promised, which I’m sure endeared themselves to all their enterprise customers.
So sure, I welcome Microsoft’s attempts to finally drag itself back into relevancy, but they’ve got a massive self-inflicted foot wound that’s gonna complicate matters.
- Bloefz@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Well, when Microsoft finally admits they’re wrong they usually backtrack well enough. Think windows 8/8.1
It was still an ugly pig with lipstick but the worst parts like the start screen were gone.
- 2 months
Wasn’t 8.1 basically the same except the start button was back on the taskbar instead of hidden behind a weird gesture?
- Bloefz@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
No, the start menu was back, in 8 it was a big full screen affair that was ridiculously big on a 24" monitor
- Optional@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Oh noooooo 8 was much more than lipstick. No, that was a giant inflatable space pig rushed out the door with the body of a moose and Constructed of fine mesh.
Fascinating to watch the car crash though.
artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
2 monthsThat was a different time when they were getting the smackdown from Janet Reno.
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zipEnglish
2 months“drag itself back into relevancy”
They still have some like a little more than 90% market share. That seems pretty relevant to me.
Solaris@lemmy.worldEnglish
2 monthsSay what you want about Microsoft, but at the very least, it seems to know when it needs to change course.
That has to be sarcasm, right?
- 2 months
Lmfao they “removed” LLM bullshit from Notepad by removing the Copilot branding and making it less prominent.
LLM.
In Notepad.
“Fixed” with… product branding and marketing revisions.
Get the fuck out of here, Microslop.
- bstix@feddit.dkEnglish2 months
the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive
Uh. I think I found the issue. A menu isn’t even supposed to have various degrees of responsiveness.
- Jesus_666@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Yeah. 60% more responsive for something infamous for taking multiple seconds to launch is depressingly bad. That’s “not even trying” levels of improvement.
The start menu should open essentially instantly (excluding optional animations) – 100 ms is good, 200 ms is somewhat adequate. They’re aiming for somewhere between 400 and 1200 ms.
I hope for them that they underpromise and overdeliver because this does not inspire confidence.
youmaynotknow@lemmy.zipEnglish
2 monthsFor a menu to take longer than 200ms is ridiculous. At 500ms of wait for my menu to show, the OS is getting nuked.
As for the ‘inspire confidence’,when was the last time MS inspired anything that was not disgust? Excluding the C-suite and some investors, of course.
- Jesus_666@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Some of the newer C# features are nice. Of course .Net is not handled by the same people who keep setting Windows on fire.
- Jason2357@lemmy.caEnglish2 months
I have seen my work laptop take upwards of 30 seconds to open the start menu. I want to crush it office-space style. 32g of ram and it apparently swaps the launcher!
youmaynotknow@lemmy.zipEnglish
2 monthsNow that’s out there. Wao! Very sorry you’re having to deal with that, honestly.
Em Adespoton@lemmy.caEnglish2 monthsWhat ever happened to Windows 10 being the last OS you’d ever need?
- Elvith Ma'for@feddit.orgEnglish2 months
But it’s true!
10 was the last one you needed. 11 and onwards is neither needed nor wanted. Also people are starting to realize the power of Linux (+Wine/Proton)
- Vex_Detrause@lemmy.caEnglish2 months
That will be the last Windows I’ll use. When windows 10 stopped working then I’ll switch to Linux full time.
- zikzak025@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
If you’re happy on Linux, stay on Linux. This is Microsoft’s “I can change baby, I swear” play. Just like they did after Windows 8. And Windows Vista. And Windows ME.
Surely they have learned their lessons and will never intentionally tank their product in the name of profit again. Surely this time.
- pinball_wizard@lemmy.zipEnglish2 months
Lol. Me too. I mean, I’ve been running primarily Linux for decades, now this single press release will have me watching for Windows 13 with interest. (This is hopefully obviously sarcasm - meant only to give you a laugh and maybe help you feel chill about whatever you do for your next OS.)
- ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.netEnglish2 months
User: the updates keep breaking my system, I see AI and ads everywhere and stupid electron apps use all my RAM
MS execs: I know! Let’s rewrite the start menu again!
- T156@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
To be fair, using react for it was just an odd decision to begin with.
- kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish2 months
Yeah, React Native exists basically for the sole purpose of making things multiplatform easily. A menu that’s specifically made for one operating system is only getting the downsides.
- imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish2 months
Valve: We just gonna release linux-based gaming miniPC.
The rest of the market:

- Monument@piefed.worldEnglish2 months
For one, the sources claim that the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive and notably more customizable.
Customizable for whom?
Users? Advertisers?- lost_faith@lemmy.caEnglish2 months
Windows users will be soon, for the first time ever, able to put the task bar on any edge of the screen, imagine that for customization.
- 2 months
you could do that in XP I’m pretty sure. Can you not do that in 11?
- lost_faith@lemmy.caEnglish2 months
That’s the joke, all you can do in 11 is move the icons to the left or leave em in the center. XP, 7, 10, all allowed task bar movement to any edge of screen
- 2 months
“Ok, ok, we hear you, no more copilot.
Meet: sidepilot.”
- AstralPath@lemmy.caEnglish2 months
Exactly. Too fucking late.
I switched to Linux two years ago, never looked back and will never ever spend my own money on Microsoft products again. They violated my trust so I abandoned them.
- DishaweslemOride@lemmy.orgEnglish2 months
Maybe this time my abusive spouse won’t beat me. I just need to go home. They’ve changed. They promise.
- jobbies@lemmy.zipEnglish2 months
So Windows 11 Service Pack 2? Or just win11.1?
I think they should call it ‘The Windows 11 Apology Tour’.
How MS is a still a thing and still turns a profit is beyond me.
- Optional@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Did y’all miss this past week where they disabled their flagship egg-basket for 1.5 billion people on purpose?
Yeah they made Copilot chromium-browser only for about 5 days. On purpose. Or, the less charitable version is they just rolled out a bug that broke things for a massive amount of people, kept the news reports down, and waited a week before being convinced that was a Dumb As Fuck move.
Everyone has to learn this in their own ways but tech people always get there eventually: microsoft is, and always has been, awful.
It’s like learning HP printers are awful.
- GreenBottles@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
To be fair old HP laserjets are still good printers 20 years later… Newer models? Trash
- Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish2 months
I had an HP laser printer pre 2000, the thing was built like a tank and just always worked
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
2 monthsI had to buy a printer recently to replace a used one from the 90’s that I’d been happily using for the past decade, and decided to go with a fairly new laser brother printer. I plugged it in and, magically, it really did just work, even on Linux.
somethingDotExe@lemmy.worldEnglish
2 monthsThe nail in the coffin for me was, when I got an add for some copilot course shit, on Microsoft teams, (this was on my work pc btw) with notifications ringing everywhere btw, on a fucking business account (I am using Linux at my household, not fucking microslop). That was IT for me. How they have the audacity to do so, is beyond me.
NekoKoneko@lemmy.worldEnglish
2 monthsThey figure once they have a captive audience, anything short of killing the hostage is fair game.
- Meron35@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Actually, it seems that even killing the hostage is fair game.
Microsoft Copilot Tells User Suicide Is an Option - https://futurism.com/the-byte/microsoft-copilot-user-suicide
somethingDotExe@lemmy.worldEnglish
2 monthsMaybe it’s the best way out of Microsoft anyways, since it seems like a too big “obsticle” for any company out there. Never heard of anyone saying Teams is awesome, yet they all love microslop365













