• LeTak@feddit.orgEnglish
    23 hours

    Oh no, what should the bots do! Starts python authentication pipeline with screen capture and qreader, forwards it to android BlueStacks. Anyway

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23 hours

    This requirement will kick in the moment the system suspects suspicious activity. At that point, reCAPTCHA will forgo the old image puzzles and require you to scan a QR code with your smartphone to prove you’re human. Although this will stop an autonomous bot in its tracks, it also adds another step to verification. But the problem runs a little deeper than the annoyance of a single additional step.

    Fuck all of that noise…

    If chrome starts asking people to pull out their phone and scan a QR code, people are just going to stop using chrome…

    • TheEntity@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23 hours

      Is this even about Chrome or the webpages themselves? I was under impression it’s the latter.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
        23 hours

        That does sound more correct

        I just noped the fuck out as soon as I saw “scan a website QR with your cellphone”

        Like, imagine all the fake captchas that will compromise your phone…

        Youd have to be an idiot to think even authentic ones are safe, they’re gonna tie your browser to you to help AI datacwnters consolidate information on us.

        • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldEnglish
          22 hours

          Youd have to be an idiot to think even authentic ones are safe,

          I have some bad news for you. You are the minority. Most people on the fediverse are in the minority.

          We are the type of people who have linux on our pcs. Linux on pcs only have a 5% market share, and thats an all time high.

          People on lemmy naturally avoid sites like tiktok. Not because of politics, but because tiktok as a format is just annoying.

          The idiots are everywhere. So if google falsely identifies the 5% as bots, and you just stop visiting the webpage, they don’t care. Your protests will not stop this. You aren’t wrong that you’d have to be an idiot to go along with this, but the world is filled with idiots.

          When I walk in public, I know 9 out of 10 times I’m the smartest person in the area. Not because I’m actually really smart, but because the world around me is filled with morons who refuse to engage in critical thinking. If everyone around me just stopped to think for themselves, and got in the habit of regularly doing so, I would no longer be the smartest man in most rooms.

          Until that happens, you have to view everything that happens with a different outlook. Don’t ask “Is this a good idea that smart people would do?” Instead ask “Is this something the mouth breathers will not question?”

          And once you look at it from that angle, you’ll begin to realize one horrifying thought. Nothing in this world is being done for your benefit. It’s all being done to your detriment.

          Oh look, here’s an age verification system. Just show your id and let this totally secure system store all your personal data! Nothing wrong with that, right? It’s being done to protect the kids! I don’t think I need to explain to anyone on Lemmy how much of a load of bullshit that is, but again. You are the minority. Most people in my family are convinced it’s a great idea. They think I’m a conspiracy theorist for suggesting things like inevitable data breaches, or that the whole system is just one massive honey pot of personal data. My family thinks I’m an idiot for knowing that, and trying to warn them.

          But, again…minority.

          And I already know what will happen. Once their own personal data has been breached, they’ll claim no one could have seen it coming, and deny that I ever said anything. My entire families catch phrase at this point is “Oh, I don’t remember that at all.”

          And then they wonder why I don’t talk to them much. Hell, my brother in law SUPPORTS ai. He denies that its stealing jobs. Denies that its destroying the planet, and eating massive amounts of resources.

          He says “I think we would have heard about something like that” while ignoring all the times I’ve shown him articles about the times we heard about that. He denies that copilot in windows 11 screen captures you.

          I’m just getting myself worked up again. My point is, you aren’t wrong that only an idiot would fall for this, but you aren’t considering that this world is like 85% idiots.

          • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            20 hours

            Yeah it sucks being the smartest person you know. It sounds so assholeish to say it, but its so true. The average person does not have a want to learn or gain knowledge, and so they are just dumb and like it that way. We are lucky we enjoy gaining knowledge. And thats why we also hate llm slop so much.

            Its stressful having the dummies drag us down with them though.

            • village604@adultswim.fanEnglish
              2 hours

              Yeah, high school was rough because I went from a very competitive middle school where my class was 600 kids, to a school with 150 kids K-12 where the attitude was, “you don’t really need to go to college.” (The guidance counselor said that when I asked for help on scholarship applications).

    • zewm@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21 hours

      You underestimate the lowest common denominator. All of the normie/non tech people that I interact with in my day to day have zero interest in evading these things. They will just do whatever is asked to continue. If that means scanning a QR code with their phone, they will.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21 hours

        They people who famously hate QR codes and couldn’t use them if they tried?

        They will just not go to that website.

    • Pika@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      18 hours

      For clarification, this will likely mean anyone using a VPN won’t be allowed to also use non-google phones. As google will repeatedly request captcha on known VPN endpoints and they are common vectors for malicious programs and bots to use, so it’s almost certainly going to be escalated to the QR code level.

      Honestly I expect a bit of resistance to this change from web operators though. They are not going to like VPN users submitting bug reports saying “they can’t verify/its annoying so fix it”. There are far more users using VPN’s as a standard than there is custom firmware or degoogled devices.

    • skankhunt42@lemmy.caEnglish
      22 hours

      If this is real, I will clone how it looks but every QR will point here.

      Trusting any QR code anywhere is a bad idea.

    • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
      17 hours

      Or murina. Or volla.

      Also if this is “scan a qr code from a pc screen” that shit does. Not. Fucking. Work.

      • squaresinger@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9 hours

        There will likely be an iOS implementation, and Google doesn’t care about the rest.

        They want you to get in line and install Google Play Services already (or buy a phone with it installed).

  • Tempus Fugit@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23 hours

    I don’t think I will. Do this shit at your own peril. I refuse to even do current captcha shit. I immediately back out of your page and use an alternative that doesn’t waste my time.

  • [deleted]@piefed.worldEnglish
    23 hours

    This requirement will kick in the moment the system suspects suspicious activity. At that point, reCAPTCHA will forgo the old image puzzles and require you to scan a QR code with your smartphone to prove you’re human.

    Any random QR code?

    What if I don’t have a QR code available?

    This sounds like an assumption that people will have something available that isn’t necessarily accurate a significant amount of the time.

    • pirat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23 hours

      I’d guess they want you to scan the QR code on your PC screen with your phone camera to verify your human identity. If you’re already browsing on your phone, your identity would already be linked through that, so no need to scan.

  • LeTak@feddit.orgEnglish
    23 hours

    Google shows how to fuckup their user base. Apple got a better example for that with iOS 16 feature „Automatic Verification“ for CAPTCHAs. It’s not forced, you can deactivate it. And if you don’t have it, you get a normal standard capture like everyone else. Why not that Google, just copy that feature and no one would be pissed of by your „let’s be evil“ marketing.

    • DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
      22 hours

      The other day I tried to pull up driving directions hands free, something I have been able to do for like TEN YEARS, and Gemini tells me it can’t. It tells me I should use the maps app.

      Fuck Google!

    • [object Object]@lemmy.caEnglish
      18 hours

      Because the whole point is to deanonymize you for marketing.

      This is at launch integrate with Google Analytics. It’s about following you around everywhere you go online and selling that data to ICE and whoever the fuck will pay them.

  • aloofPenguin@piefed.worldEnglish
    22 hours

    I thought graphene os has sandbox for google play services? Couldn’t you use that with a qr code scanner and whatever else you need to bypass their attempts at locking down the ecosystem entirely, at least on GOS?

    • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      20 hours

      Theoretically? Although we’d need to do some testing first as a community before we confirm that’s the case (or build a solution to it).

  • mrbn@lemmy.caEnglish
    23 hours

    Could spell trouble

    But wont because we’re totally ignoring that iOS exists in this clickbait article.

  • Bloefz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    20 hours

    Hmm any way we could make it seem to the web server that our phones are iOS perhaps? That should always bypass it.

  • mynameisbob@lemmy.mlEnglish
    22 hours

    if a site is too much of a bother I just move on… google can recapitchaahhh dez nutz. If you put that crap on your website I just move along

  • mynameisbob@lemmy.mlEnglish
    22 hours

    omgawd I am not doing that omgawd I am not doing that omgawd I am not doing that… hahaha seriously google go fuck yourself… hahahaha so stoooooopid