- floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish2 hours
“Origin” is a peculiar choice for a version name. I wonder if they’re trying to go off of the popularity of a common extension
- yestalgia@lemmy.worldEnglish30 minutes
I read the article.
But also I’m out of the loop on why ppl hate Brave. Can someone clue me in?
Is there a better cross-platform browser? I like to use the same one across devices.
- yestalgia@lemmy.worldEnglish26 minutes
It’s so hard to find good things as it is. Adding in politics of devs adds yet another layer to it!
I recently started using FUTO keyboard and then learned someone they associate with is a bad dude.
It’s like, come on guys. I’m trying to degoogle, avoid enshittification, and be privacy and security aware… and then there’s this curveball that I have to factor in too.
- floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish2 hours
It’s sold as a privacy-focused browser but it doesn’t actually have a good track record or features for it. The company has made several questionable choices.
Firefox or fork of choice plus a couple of extensions
- yestalgia@lemmy.worldEnglish30 minutes
I’m using waterfox as my dedicated porn browser and have found few faults. Maybe I’ll go that direction for my main browser.
I tried LibreWolf and had issues that I can’t remember now.
3 hoursI don’t mind paying a fee for a browser. It’s a lot of development time and I use it a lot. But not like this, and not brave.
- Phantaloons@piefed.zipEnglish4 hours
Reminds me of Anubis charging $50 to remove the :3 moe fox girl.
- webghost0101@sopuli.xyzEnglish2 hours
Not quite the same,
Anubis is open source and changing/removing it can actually be done for free without any laws stopping you,
They kindly ask you to pay them to do it as part of a kind off enterprise service, using the logic that if your website is professional enough to care about a logo, its professional enough to support the work it is relying on.
- atrielienz@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
This isn’t meant to be a hate comment or anything like that, but a closed mouth don’t get fed. I think it’s good that there’s discourse about this browser and every browser, pointing out the scummy things they do. If we didn’t do that there would never be any backlash and most people who know these things now wouldn’t know.
- ilinamorato@lemmy.worldEnglish13 hours
I feel like if you’re writing the sentence “an optional, paid version of our browser that offers Brave […] without its extra features,” you need to sit back and take a long, hard look at yourself.
- SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.orgEnglish17 hours
Firefox users stay winning. I love how mad some people are about Firefox.
- kepix@lemmy.worldEnglish16 hours
won so much uninstall when it showed a world cup advert to everyones face the other day. the forks are great, but the fox is getting enshitificated in every possible way.
- Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish15 hours
On the mobile app, when you open it there’s a non-removable FIFA widget in the home page. I hate it.
Edit: I’ve tried again and now they added an option to remove it. But still, why would I want a fucking soccer widget in my browser?
- 14 hours
Yeah it’s doing that to me too. The ‘Countdown to the world cup’ thing? Fuck the world cup, fuck these ads, I’m only still using Firefox because I can’t be bothered to migrate all my bookmarks to something better.
- 7 hours
The Firefox forks let you migrate everything seamlessly for the most part.
- Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish12 hours
Exactly, and the world cup of soccer is managed by FIFA, one of the most evil organisations in the world.
Firefox is a beautiful product managed by a retarded company. Mozilla should die and just become a non-profit.
- 11 hours
FIFA, one of the most evil organisations in the world
Sorry, but no matter how bad and corrupt FIFA is, calling them that is ridiculous. Your average American health care/insurance company and their “deny, defend, depose” operation is probably worse.
- FiskFisk33@startrek.websiteEnglish11 hours
What would be better though?
I have my problems with mozilla, but between apple, google and mozilla, they absolutely win in my book.
- Joelk111@lemmy.worldEnglish15 hours
I also use a fork on most systems, but I still use Firefox pretty often, and I can think of a lot more ways it could be worse and isn’t being enshittified.
- 17 hours
The bad news is, if you’re not on Team Tux, you’re going to have to pay $60 for Brave Origin. Granted, you only need to buy it once, and you’ll get unlimited activations across all of your devices.
It’s amazing people still believe this BS.
- Liana@lemmy.worldEnglish17 hours
They’ll probably hold to it for that exact product. If they rebrand it and add it back, that’s no longer the same thing you paid for ;)
Ya, that’s the really obvious take. That’s teh way you do biz these days.
Like, that’s what’s gonna happen to all those ‘lifetime’ Plex accounts. Sure, you still have access to ‘Plex-classic’. But you don’t get any of the new Plextastic services … unless you want to pay the $1,999 upgrade fee …- Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish14 hours
If I get to use the exact product I paid for a lifetime account for forever that does kinda sound like exactly what I paid for.
Trust me. You need Plextastic. Its got all the cool new stuff. Just a small fee.
You will come around.
Totally off topic, but I drink at a bar called Spaghetti Western!
Hillsboro, OR.
Yet people keep recommending products by this scummy company and pile on Firefox for slightest missteps.
Mozilla should be scrutinized, even if Firefox is currently the best option.
I think the only thing keeping them inline is loud community backlash everytime they make one of those misssteps.
I think everyone should be held to the same standard. We can yell at Firefox a bit less. We should yell at Brave a lot more.
People dont seem to be scrutinizing though. Its genuinely unhinged and often completely misinformed. They will jump on a single line of a legal text and use it to springboard into a world of scenarios even when Mozilla is saying its not true.
It doesnt help improve the product it just makes people think all products are bad and fallback to whatever the comfortable majority is which is chrome.
Sometimes corporations lie.
It’s not being unhinged to say you don’t like something. And the way that Mozilla is embracing “AI” is not welcomed.
- FluorideMind@lemmy.worldEnglish19 hours
Who cares it’s a corporation, it doesn’t have feelings. Anything to keep these corpos in line.
Sorry man, but the minute Firefox added that keylogger, I dipped.
Firefox rendering engine is dogshit and they are massively behind.
This coming from someone that was using Netscape and Mozilla and Firefox since its release.
- blackbeans@lemmy.zipEnglish17 hours
Firefox doesn’t include a keylogger. It does have the infamous privacy preserving attribution but this can easily be disabled in settings.
In contrast, Chrome is literally a tool for Google to gain as much personal information as possible for Googles advertisement platform. It has the worst privacy features of the three major browsers and cannot be fully made private due to crippled extension support.
Firefox engine has some catching up to do, but the Safari rendering engine is behind Firefox on features.
- SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.orgEnglish17 hours
Okay, it was always allowed to shoot yourself in the foot by going Chromium-based.
I don’t know what you’re on about. There is no keylogger and I don’t have any issues with the engine unless it’s some weird ass “chrome experiments” style website which I couldn’t care less about.
I find LibreWolf to be the better option for privacy, I never have an issue with rendering.
- Liana@lemmy.worldEnglish17 hours
You either die a Netscape Navigator, or you live long enough to become a… any of em, really.
They removed the paw, they are worse than Chrome! I’m going to use an alternative version that cannot exist without the main project to teach them a lesson!
- leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish17 hours
Alternatives being even worse doesn’t make firefox good, or invalidate any objective criticism against it.
All of the current browsers have major drawbacks. Brave has many features that other browsers don’t offer. They’ve made what is quickly becoming the industry standard adblocker, being adopted by Firefox, Waterfox, Comet, and even Ladybird browser. No extensions required.
Most browsers don’t allow you to easily toggle on and off certain privacy features on a per-site basis. That’s why I use it primarily.
Origin is free on Linux.
Until Servo and Ladybird are ready, this strikes the best balance for privacy and usabllity, in my opinion
Most browsers don’t allow you to easily toggle on and off certain privacy features on a per-site basis
I don’t know what “certain features” are. LibreWolf lets me easily enable WebGL on per-site basis and uBlock could always do that anyway. I don’t need to touch anything else.
Origin is free on Linux.
Yes, and you can also toggle everything off via config. That does not matter, it’s still a scummy move that should be ridiculed. How, exactly, is a dashboard that toggles some settings on or off is worth 60 dollars? It’s not “paying for convenience” it’s a tax on tech incompetency.
I don’t know what “certain features” are.
Would you like to know or were just just wanting to be contrarian?
How, exactly, is a dashboard that toggles some settings on or off is worth 60 dollars?
It’s not. And its not supposed to be. Its to fund the development of the browser.
- NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zipEnglish18 hours
Brave has many features that other browsers don’t offer
Such as? Crypto nonsense?
The adblocker? OK I guess, except they are still just a middle man for ads (hence the crypto nonsense).
I dont see the value.
Why do you ask questions that I already answered in the comment you replied to?
- Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish14 hours
I’m curious how their adblocker blocks more than 100% of all ads, cuz that’s what they’d need to beat ublock (which existed before brave did).
To be fair, he said something about built-in
But I’m with you
The choice of high quality ad Blockers per addon is nothing that’s wrong with Firefox
- Diego@lemmy.caEnglish13 hours
Brave Origin’s main feature isn’t what it adds but what it removes: it scraps email aliases, Leo AI, the VPN tool, the Brave Wallet implementation, and Speedreader, just to name a few features. You can either download a browser with all of those disabled, or you can upgrade your Brave browser with a panel that lets you tweak what ones you want to keep.
- kibblebits@quokk.auEnglish23 hours
Brave has always been a joke. And Brave users will always be a joke. And anyone who’s ever simped for Brave will always be a moron.
- 23 hours
Rude. But not inaccurate. Brave pretends to be better than Chrome and Google, but also Mozilla and Firefox at the same time, though Firefox has always done it better and has never contributed to the chromium monopoly. Greed over diversification of the Web and competition between browser engines to effect real change. The least Brave could do is make their own engine.
- OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish18 hours
Eh, I use it for watching youtube.
For some reason (likely youtube fighting my adblockers) I get tons of errors and issues with youtube on firefox. But Brave works alright, and also blocks the ads. So it’s my dedicated youtube browser.
never had issues with firefox and ublock origin and youtube and whatever and neither on android, linux, windows or whatsoever. guess i am just not dumb enough
Gotta refresh em sometimes. When ublock stops managing youtube perfectly, I reload all the filters. Sometimes I don’t even need to close out the browser, just the filters.
