• atrielienz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3 hours

    This isn’t meant to be a hate comment or anything like that, but a closed mouth don’t get fed. I think it’s good that there’s discourse about this browser and every browser, pointing out the scummy things they do. If we didn’t do that there would never be any backlash and most people who know these things now wouldn’t know.

  • ilinamorato@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11 hours

    I feel like if you’re writing the sentence “an optional, paid version of our browser that offers Brave […] without its extra features,” you need to sit back and take a long, hard look at yourself.

    • kepix@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14 hours

      won so much uninstall when it showed a world cup advert to everyones face the other day. the forks are great, but the fox is getting enshitificated in every possible way.

        • Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish
          12 hours

          On the mobile app, when you open it there’s a non-removable FIFA widget in the home page. I hate it.

          Edit: I’ve tried again and now they added an option to remove it. But still, why would I want a fucking soccer widget in my browser?

          • Regrettable_incident@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11 hours

            Yeah it’s doing that to me too. The ‘Countdown to the world cup’ thing? Fuck the world cup, fuck these ads, I’m only still using Firefox because I can’t be bothered to migrate all my bookmarks to something better.

            • Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish
              9 hours

              Exactly, and the world cup of soccer is managed by FIFA, one of the most evil organisations in the world.

              Firefox is a beautiful product managed by a retarded company. Mozilla should die and just become a non-profit.

              • Someone8765210932@lemmy.worldEnglish
                8 hours

                FIFA, one of the most evil organisations in the world

                Sorry, but no matter how bad and corrupt FIFA is, calling them that is ridiculous. Your average American health care/insurance company and their “deny, defend, depose” operation is probably worse.

            • FiskFisk33@startrek.websiteEnglish
              9 hours

              What would be better though?
              I have my problems with mozilla, but between apple, google and mozilla, they absolutely win in my book.

      • Joelk111@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13 hours

        I also use a fork on most systems, but I still use Firefox pretty often, and I can think of a lot more ways it could be worse and isn’t being enshittified.

  • spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    15 hours

    The bad news is, if you’re not on Team Tux, you’re going to have to pay $60 for Brave Origin. Granted, you only need to buy it once, and you’ll get unlimited activations across all of your devices.

    It’s amazing people still believe this BS.

    • Liana@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14 hours

      They’ll probably hold to it for that exact product. If they rebrand it and add it back, that’s no longer the same thing you paid for ;)

      • dbtng@eviltoast.orgEnglish
        13 hours

        Ya, that’s the really obvious take. That’s teh way you do biz these days.
        Like, that’s what’s gonna happen to all those ‘lifetime’ Plex accounts. Sure, you still have access to ‘Plex-classic’. But you don’t get any of the new Plextastic services … unless you want to pay the $1,999 upgrade fee …

        • Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          11 hours

          If I get to use the exact product I paid for a lifetime account for forever that does kinda sound like exactly what I paid for.

          • dbtng@eviltoast.orgEnglish
            11 hours

            Trust me. You need Plextastic. Its got all the cool new stuff. Just a small fee.
            You will come around.

    • dbtng@eviltoast.orgEnglish
      13 hours

      Totally off topic, but I drink at a bar called Spaghetti Western!
      Hillsboro, OR.

  • Diego@lemmy.caEnglish
    10 hours

    Brave Origin’s main feature isn’t what it adds but what it removes: it scraps email aliases, Leo AI, the VPN tool, the Brave Wallet implementation, and Speedreader, just to name a few features. You can either download a browser with all of those disabled, or you can upgrade your Brave browser with a panel that lets you tweak what ones you want to keep.

  • graynk@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    20 hours

    Yet people keep recommending products by this scummy company and pile on Firefox for slightest missteps.

    • CubitOom@infosec.pubEnglish
      14 hours

      Mozilla should be scrutinized, even if Firefox is currently the best option.

      I think the only thing keeping them inline is loud community backlash everytime they make one of those misssteps.

      • graynk@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        9 hours

        I think everyone should be held to the same standard. We can yell at Firefox a bit less. We should yell at Brave a lot more.

        • CubitOom@infosec.pubEnglish
          5 hours

          Same standard means we make noise when we don’t like something.

      • Fizz@lemmy.nzEnglish
        18 hours

        People dont seem to be scrutinizing though. Its genuinely unhinged and often completely misinformed. They will jump on a single line of a legal text and use it to springboard into a world of scenarios even when Mozilla is saying its not true.

        It doesnt help improve the product it just makes people think all products are bad and fallback to whatever the comfortable majority is which is chrome.

        • CubitOom@infosec.pubEnglish
          18 hours

          Sometimes corporations lie.

          It’s not being unhinged to say you don’t like something. And the way that Mozilla is embracing “AI” is not welcomed.

        • FluorideMind@lemmy.worldEnglish
          16 hours

          Who cares it’s a corporation, it doesn’t have feelings. Anything to keep these corpos in line.

      • zewm@lemmy.worldEnglish
        15 hours

        Sorry man, but the minute Firefox added that keylogger, I dipped.

        Firefox rendering engine is dogshit and they are massively behind.

        This coming from someone that was using Netscape and Mozilla and Firefox since its release.

        • blackbeans@lemmy.zipEnglish
          14 hours

          Firefox doesn’t include a keylogger. It does have the infamous privacy preserving attribution but this can easily be disabled in settings.

          In contrast, Chrome is literally a tool for Google to gain as much personal information as possible for Googles advertisement platform. It has the worst privacy features of the three major browsers and cannot be fully made private due to crippled extension support.

          Firefox engine has some catching up to do, but the Safari rendering engine is behind Firefox on features.

        • graynk@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          9 hours

          I don’t know what you’re on about. There is no keylogger and I don’t have any issues with the engine unless it’s some weird ass “chrome experiments” style website which I couldn’t care less about.

        • CubitOom@infosec.pubEnglish
          14 hours

          I find LibreWolf to be the better option for privacy, I never have an issue with rendering.

        • Liana@lemmy.worldEnglish
          14 hours

          You either die a Netscape Navigator, or you live long enough to become a… any of em, really.

    • oce 🐆@jlai.luEnglish
      20 hours

      They removed the paw, they are worse than Chrome! I’m going to use an alternative version that cannot exist without the main project to teach them a lesson!

    • leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      14 hours

      Alternatives being even worse doesn’t make firefox good, or invalidate any objective criticism against it.

    • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
      19 hours

      All of the current browsers have major drawbacks. Brave has many features that other browsers don’t offer. They’ve made what is quickly becoming the industry standard adblocker, being adopted by Firefox, Waterfox, Comet, and even Ladybird browser. No extensions required.

      Most browsers don’t allow you to easily toggle on and off certain privacy features on a per-site basis. That’s why I use it primarily.

      Origin is free on Linux.

      Until Servo and Ladybird are ready, this strikes the best balance for privacy and usabllity, in my opinion

      • graynk@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        9 hours

        Most browsers don’t allow you to easily toggle on and off certain privacy features on a per-site basis

        I don’t know what “certain features” are. LibreWolf lets me easily enable WebGL on per-site basis and uBlock could always do that anyway. I don’t need to touch anything else.

        Origin is free on Linux.

        Yes, and you can also toggle everything off via config. That does not matter, it’s still a scummy move that should be ridiculed. How, exactly, is a dashboard that toggles some settings on or off is worth 60 dollars? It’s not “paying for convenience” it’s a tax on tech incompetency.

        • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
          2 minutes

          I don’t know what “certain features” are.

          Would you like to know or were just just wanting to be contrarian?

          How, exactly, is a dashboard that toggles some settings on or off is worth 60 dollars?

          It’s not. And its not supposed to be. Its to fund the development of the browser.

      • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zipEnglish
        15 hours

        Brave has many features that other browsers don’t offer

        Such as? Crypto nonsense?

        The adblocker? OK I guess, except they are still just a middle man for ads (hence the crypto nonsense).

        I dont see the value.

      • Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        11 hours

        I’m curious how their adblocker blocks more than 100% of all ads, cuz that’s what they’d need to beat ublock (which existed before brave did).

        • naeap@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          5 hours

          To be fair, he said something about built-in
          But I’m with you
          The choice of high quality ad Blockers per addon is nothing that’s wrong with Firefox

  • kibblebits@quokk.auEnglish
    20 hours

    Brave has always been a joke. And Brave users will always be a joke. And anyone who’s ever simped for Brave will always be a moron.

    • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      20 hours

      Rude. But not inaccurate. Brave pretends to be better than Chrome and Google, but also Mozilla and Firefox at the same time, though Firefox has always done it better and has never contributed to the chromium monopoly. Greed over diversification of the Web and competition between browser engines to effect real change. The least Brave could do is make their own engine.

    • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
      15 hours

      Eh, I use it for watching youtube.

      For some reason (likely youtube fighting my adblockers) I get tons of errors and issues with youtube on firefox. But Brave works alright, and also blocks the ads. So it’s my dedicated youtube browser.

      • Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        15 hours

        never had issues with firefox and ublock origin and youtube and whatever and neither on android, linux, windows or whatsoever. guess i am just not dumb enough

        • dbtng@eviltoast.orgEnglish
          13 hours

          Gotta refresh em sometimes. When ublock stops managing youtube perfectly, I reload all the filters. Sometimes I don’t even need to close out the browser, just the filters.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.socialEnglish
    20 hours

    Reminds me of a joke:

    My dad always warned us about Septic Tank Steve, and that we should never pay him to do anything, and we should have listened. One day Steve came by and said if we gave him a nickel, he’d swim around in the septic tank. We thought that was hilarious, so we gave him a nickel, and he swam around the tank a while. Then he came and sat next to us on the porch and said “If you want me to leave, gimme $100.”