• Pay for independently-developed software if you care about it continuing to exist. Steal from corporations all you want. But support independent devs (and small teams) to make sure they can keep maintaining the tools you love and rely on. It’s the only way to not get swallowed by the big dogs.

  • Lol, windows users.

    Is it possible they are getting MORE paying people because lets face it, nobody RAR’s the day to day stuff.

    This seems like an increase in files on peoples computers like: ididntwantopayforthisgame_crack.rar

    • 3 hours

      I bought a license when I got my first adult paycheck. And a PS2. Good times

    • Same. I’ve happily used it for over 2 decades and decided that they actually deserve some money for that. I’ve since switched to Linux, but don’t regret paying for WinRAR at all.

        • 3 hours

          They also have a Linux version. But it might be cli only haven’t checked.

        • 2 hours

          someone considered this? lol we should show our supports to foss ones, not this one. what’s gotten into yall

      • 5 hours

        I bought my license a few years ago - I prefer to support open source projects tho

    • 7 hours

      Ever since i found out that there is a yearly subscription for winrar on android, ive been paying for it.

      I dont even use winrar anymore but it gives the same satisfaction as donating to wikipedia, and its just a few bucks so why not

  • 7zip is better anyway I don’t understand why people still use WinRar. Then again I don’t understand why people still use Windows either.

    • I’m glad you can have a Windows-free existence.

      Some things just don’t function well on Linux, but there are lots of us who are 99% Linux and don’t use Windows unless we have to.

      • I have to use a windows box when I initiate my Reolink security cameras as an example. Haven’t been about to figure out a way to do the initial setup on them without and I couldn’t get it to run on Linux. Honestly been less of a time consuming pain to just have a windows box with the software. It’s only plugged into the isolated LAN anyway so whatever.

        • CAD softwares, Tally, any Autodesk tools, Adobe software not counting specifically made business softwares years ago. I couldn’t get Office running with wine ever.

            • 2 hours

              It’s the industry standard in many areas for a reason. Photoshop has no equal, though strides are being made to change that.

        • My 3080ti graphics card. To my knowledge, NVIDIA drivers are still a mess on Linux, and any suggestion to “just switch to AMD” is neither helpful nor appreciated; as if dropping $500+ for a new graphics card when my current one works perfectly fine is in ANY way a valid solution.

          • 2 hours

            Been playing everyday for about two years with my 3060ti without much issue. There’s still the odd hiccup on occasion, but it’s usually solved by picking a different Proton version. Most games “just work,” generally without any changes.

            The nVidia drivers haven’t been “a mess” for quite a long time, so if that’s what is holding you back, I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised. ProtonDB has a massive and growing list of games that run on Linux, and you can see what people did (if anything) to get those games working.

            I will caution you, however, that if any amount of tinkering makes you inwardly cringe, you might want to think twice. Linux is generally easy to use, and it’s only getting easier, but there will be times you’ll have to add Launch Options to a Steam game, install a mod differently, or use the command line to do something.

          • Nvidia drivers and gaming compatibility have grown leaps in the last year. I’m using dual monitors on a 2070m in a laptop, one of the historically most incompatible setups. I am running cachyos. I was able to simply install the OS and start playing my entire steam library, all without any modification. I play plenty of modern games. I don’t have any AAA FPS with anticheat though, which I hear don’t work at all.

          • 3 hours

            Nvidia works fine on Linux. I have an nvidia card at home, and I support a bunch of them at work. It’s easy. https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/tesla/driver-installation-guide/latest/index.html

            Use the network installation to add the deb or rpm repo, then choose whether you want the open or proprietary drivers. Install the package and that’s it, your package manager will handle the dependencies.

            You may need to create and enroll a dkms key if you have secureboot enabled and you haven’t done that already, but that’s the only wrinkle.

        • For me personally about 30% of my video game library, which don’t function even with the various compatibility tools.

          But when I started my YouTube channel I was using Openshot, which does not work on Linux, or at least it didn’t for me. My old Lenovo Legion was largely incompatible with Linux too, as I tried a dual-boot with two different distros and still had to debug it all the time. (Thankfully not a problem on the Acer that replaced it.)

          Linux is great, but it’s not yet compatible with everything.

        • 3 hours
          • Adobe and other professional programs
          • online games that use anti-cheat
          • some old games
          • some game mods
          • 2 hours

            Do you have to remove your bottom two ribs to shill for adobe or do they send you to special stretching classes?

            • 2 hours

              Adobe is a shit company, and I’m not giving them any money, but the fact is their programs have features that the alternatives don’t. I’m looking forward to the day when they start supporting Linux or an alternate program family steps up with all the features I need.

    • Deleted Windows from every computer I ever owned.

      Then because of a certain chain of events came the time to look into working from home. Boy oh boy, I guess it depends on the type of work you do but for what I’m qualified for they absolutely do not vibe with anything except Windows. I couldn’t even find many that would at least let you use Mac.

      I begrudgingly installed Windows 11 on my machine again the other day for this very reason. I’ll still dual boot of course but man, I’m really not happy about it.

      Also, Windows are complete dicks about letting you make a bootable windows USB gotta either use apps not in your distro directory or use another Windows computer to make one. Wtf is that shit about? And I had to spend like 2 hours making windows suck less.

      It reminds me of how apps are starting to treat me for using Graphene OS

      • Are you working for yourself? Its hard to tell with how you put this.

        I only work remotely, and I will never use windows to do it. The places I work for must provide the windows, and I remote into them from Linux. I vastly prefer this model. I do not want their software on my computer as I never want to be liable. The business likes it because it is far more secure to not give me a laptop and have to fuck around with a VPN.

        As for the other issue: There are projects that will build the USB for you, where you provide the windows ISO you want, and then it removes all the crap and telemetry before install. There are ways to make the USB without windows, although I am not sure what you mean by “outside distro directory”.

      • I just found woeusb the other day, if you need to make a windows USB from Linux in the future.

    • 10 hours

      Not everything is a competition. If people want to support WinRAR after the developer maintained it for more than 30 years and helped out millions of people, that’s just fine.

      • 7 hours

        If i fill bottles with tap water and try to sell it to my neighbours then anyone still “supporting” me after 30 years is an idiot.

        • 2 hours

          This is not only a stupid comparison you’ve missed the point entirely.

        • 5 hours

          Bottles, time to bottle, and distribution are worth compensation

          • You’re right and if people are demanding your bottles then that means it is valuable at least to those people.

            Also this is how water bottle companies actually do stuff the store brands in USA of Purified water almost always say they’re from a public water supply.

      • 36 minutes

        Preferred by who?
        Personally I’m not a fan of the ‘modern’ windows UI, lack of a menu bar, added sponsor button, lack of 32-bit support, lack of windows <10 support, or the fact that it’s an msix-installed ‘app’ rather than a normal program.

    • 10 hours

      I use it on occasion, since it will deflate 100+GB zip files much faster than 7zip will. (7z is single threaded for pkzips)

      It’s been more than a decade since I used it to compress anything though. LZMA2 rocks.

      • 8 hours

        How does multithreading improve the performance of an unzip operation? I would think the opposite, given the context switching and (abstracted) low level drive writes.

        • It’s heavily CPU bound in a normal system today. Extracting (let alone compressing) a 2 GB file will take a noticeable amount of time. Reading the whole thing from an nvme will take roughly 1 second. Random access is no longer a relevant performance impact either.

          It is my understanding that multithreaded extraction is hard(er) cause the used dictionary is built up incrementally. So to extract later parts you need to have extracted earlier parts.

    • 12 hours

      Or WinZip. I work for a company that literally has the licenses for every computer they own. Why? 7-zip is free.

      • Winzip, i think, is owned by Corel I think. Almost as evil as Adobe. In India over here a lot of small businesses use it and it is unaffordable for them to get such creative suites. Corel constantly sends notices to the ones using cracked copies and force them to buy it for 3 years to avoid legal damages.

      • 11 hours

        I could think of stronger password protection options. Maybe some kind of UI. Maybe a way to certify creators of the zip so they can filter out malicious zips in emails. I dont know what WinZip offers but company compliance is a goldmine.

        • 7 hours

          Yup. The ability or willingness of a software maker to remove or agree to an indemnification clause is sometimes of paramount importance for some organizations.

          It’s sank more than a few promising projects at my org.

  • Makes sense. People finally have tons of disposable income to spread around. /S

    Or maybe is just that everything else is so ridiculously expensive that WinRAR seems like a good deal now.

  • ITT: The most politically charged discussion of compression software I’ve ever read…

    • 8 hours

      FOSS users when there’s a software that’s free but not open source

      • 5 hours

        I make software that’s almost “open source” with the only limitation being that you can’t resell it. I’ve had FOSS users tell me they’d prefer it being proprietary.

        • Surely thats just a couple of weirdos on the extreme side. Did that happen on multiple occasions?

      • 7 hours

        Israel uses 7zip to genocide LGBTQ children in Palestine running Arch btw

  • RAR files just make me “Huh?” as they are nowhere near as good as 7zip, as universal as zip, or as nice as tarballs.

    The memory of multi-part rar files being a good way to get big things voer dial-up is kinda long past, they’re a relic, in my book.

    • 6 hours

      I think theyre still popular on Usenet.

      IDK all the history but rar has built in ability to create recovery data / parity volumes.

      Parity data is like additional data that can help reconstruct any degradation.

      That said, usually a standalone parity generator is used which can work with other types of archives, but rar is what everyone uses so why change.

      Compression algos are ineffective on encoded / compressed media anyway.

      It used to be important on Usenet, and maybe still is, because if a drive starts to fail somewhere and contains errors those errors can be reproduced across the network. Not sure if thats still a thing or why but certainly 10 years ago it was.

      The summary to this rambling comment is: some communities still like rar because its what they’ve always used and there’s no benefit to adopting 7z.

    • 12 hours

      Unlike 7-Zip, which is actually free and also open-source as well

      7-Zip is by far the best archiving software on Windows

      • 6 hours

        Didn’t Microsoft get in trouble for trying to steal 7zip code without credit or something?

      • 11 hours

        Well, but I’m used to WinRAR and never had any issues. Only need it once every few months. And it’s pretty fun when the software tries to tell me that it isn’t a free software. What a silly thing to say!

  • 12 hours

    Its big companies that screw them the most. I have worked for multiple multi billion dollar corporations that will screw Team Viewer over even though its how we get customers into their down servers. And it wasn’t one data center, its every data center I have ever worked in (30 years in)

    If the license is free, they will screw them.

    *I know TV hasn’t been around that long, but WinRAR has been and it was another company I saw screwed.

    • 7 hours

      Thats kinda of how the free license works though. Yes loads of people use it without paying but theyre free advertising.

    • 11 hours

      Ah, yes, the bigger the company, the more willing to save something negligible on tools its business depends upon.

      Honestly that’s why I wish more of FOSS were hobbyist like AROS, Haiku and such. FOSS projects shouldn’t be too readily usable by businesses, that allows bullshit shops with arrogant pigeon management to keep existing without building proper processes.

      I mean, there’s some equilibrium here probably, but with what projects get from businesses bigger than nation-states using their work, - we’re far from it.

      At the same time there are things like Java, PostgreSQL, Redis, Nginx and so on. I don’t know.

      It just seems sometimes that FOSS breaks market mechanisms in favor of big businesses not giving back to the rest of economy, which seems the opposite of its intuitively and emotionally perceived goal.

      But maybe archivers are not it. Not a fan of the idea of having a set of 10 different archivers all often needed, like people did in the 90s. OK, I was a baby in the 90s. Many people didn’t have PCs in the 90s.

      But can we just go back to weak connectivity (say, asynchronous message exchange of everyone to everyone via BT ; global cryptographic identities and message ids, sort of a global p2p cryptographically contracted Usenet), a zoo of common operating systems and hardware platforms, evolution, competition, geekiness, interesting things.

  • 12 hours

    Before you go thinking “ah! That’s funny, I might chime in and give them some of my money too!” - remember that WinRAR is develop by a Russian person, can’t find their stance on the Ukrainian invasion but just something to think about.

    • 12 hours

      Isn’t that like saying all Americans are evil because our president is a piece of trash?

      • 12 hours

        Well, yes, thanks for the reminder!

        Ey guys, before you go buying or using some USA software, make sure they don’t support or have ties with the Trump administration!

        • 12 hours

          Fun fact, the US was already a warmongering shit stain long long before trump.

          • Fun fact, so was every other nation in the world that ever fancied itself important enough to compete with others. America is just the latest bully to come out on top.

          • Well yeah, since its conception. Idk how much my perception of when Europeans became “Americans” is synonymous with historians, but… After the Europeans vastly destroyed the American population and took the name for themselves, Americans used violence to secede from English command. Iirc it was started by a plainclothes soldier shooting a soldier, starting a massacre.

        • 12 hours

          I have been boycotting american products since they voted a pedo in office.

      • Regardless of your actual politics, we’re still funding MAGA shit because we’re too poor to dodge our taxes. So I fully support people boycotting American businesses, same as with any business based in other countries doing evil shit.

        • I know i’m fully nitpicking in bad faith here, but which are the countries not doing evil shit ? There probably are a few that are mostly good, but even those are quite rare, aren’t they ?

          • shrugs The various Pacific island nations probably don’t have any fuckery going on, even if only because they lack the ability. Or if they do, they’re too small to be obvious about it, which I’ll admit is probably as good as it gets.

      • 10 hours

        The majority of you voted for him, so it’s fair to assume a majority of you are like him, yes.

        • Wrong; not everyone voted, and of those who did, only a bit under half voted for him (given that there were also candidates from other parties), so he did not get a majority.

          Furthermore, pretty much the moment he entered office and actually started doing things, his approval ratings plummeted, so it is not correct to assume that the majority of us are “like him”; it would be more fair to say that he tricked a large number of people into thinking that he was someone different than he was. (Mind you, I think that these people were fools who should have known better, but that is a different kind of flaw.)

      • 12 hours

        No. you made a jump from not knowing a stance of a single person to attributing evil to an entire nation.

        • 7 hours

          Because need to know the stance of a single person implies attributing evil to his whole nation.

    • 12 hours

      It is important to think about and keep in mind, but it’s also important not to judge blindly. Do some research before you make a decision on something like this and try to make an informed decision. People aren’t responsible for where they’re born, and not everyone is in a position for fight or flight. Most Russians are victims of Putin too, some worse than others. Many of them may be ignorant, yes, and even deeply unpleasant and unlikable people with nasty attitudes, but they are also brainwashed by one of the most manipulative and subtly oppressive regimes that has possibly ever existed in the modern world. Organizing a resistance against tyranny isn’t easy. Even finding the motivation to resist it isn’t easy. If it was easy, we wouldn’t have such problems with tyrants all around the world, and orangeman wouldn’t have lasted a week.

      If you don’t want to send money that will end up in Russia, I don’t blame you. If you are afraid of the infiltration and malware risks that come with using software made in Russia, I don’t blame you for that either. But the guy himself is probably just a normal person, unless there’s specific evidence otherwise. “Othering” and demonizing other people is the path to the dark side. You can hate the country and government and the system, and you should, but not the people born and raised within it. They’re in a big fucking mess, and you would be too if you lived there. Just because you think you’d make different choices personally, doesn’t mean they’re making bad ones for the situation they’re in.

      We are all just people. We are not better or worse than any other people. We are all trying to do the same things in life. Even the Russian people. But we’ve been made to be different by our environments and nations and governments that benefit from us being divided and hating each other. Don’t play their game.

    • 11 hours

      Going to start boycotting American companies too, seeing as the USA and its people has always, are, and will always be the worst group of people on earth.

        • 3 hours

          To me, the USA is degrees more vile than France. Both nations have decided to ruin the lives of my country men, and cause strife in my region.

          And seeing as most of this downward trend of human life was triggered by the USA…