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    It’s one giant database with different filters for each website.

    Other than privacy concerns, I dislike the consumption aspect. I see them swiping and it looks like they’re shopping. I know some people have found meaningful relationships on Tinder, but I can’t get over it.

    I wonder if so many using it almost as the default way of dating makes it harder to find someone for those who want to avoid it.

    • I wonder if so many using it almost as the default way of dating makes it harder to find someone for those who want to avoid it.

      That absolutely does happen. They’ve done a lot of astroturfing on social media to discredit the idea of meeting someone in person organically. They created this stigma that people who try to do that are “creeps”, when that’s how nearly everyone found their partners until about twenty years ago…

  • Yep. it’s essentially a ridiculous, yet somehow legal racket.

    • And they convinced several generations that using them is necessary for dating.

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        It somewhat is for some people. Like where are you going to meet people of the opposite gender? I don’t think most women want to be hit on at work, gym, grocery stores, whatever. Men are starved enough for attention that many of us will appreciate any, anywhere, anytime, but I’m not into guys.

        We need a real-life amulet of Mara tbh.

        • The wildest part is that all those apps in post basically useless, even if you pretty — girls there in free market basically, where they can choose anyone who messaged them, there no point for them to seek attention first.

          And in just a minute after registering on grindr I got hit on multiple times. So yeah, I guess I’m gay now.

        • Except third spaces have been systematically dismantled by capitalist interests, and the dating app industry’s astroturfing on social media has done a lot of damage to the perceived validity of meeting someone in person organically.

          You can’t just say dating apps are necessary because there’s nowhere else to meet people and ignore the fact that that very problem is socially engineered. It’s manufactured scarcity.

          Like if nestle were to poison a town’s water supply so that they could sell more water bottles. After buying out deer park, dasani, and aquafina. And patenting the idea of selling water in bottles. You wouldn’t say “actually it’s necessary to buy their water bottles,” you would say “that’s fucked up and should be illegal.”

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            Agreed on third spaces, but it’s mostly because of car-centric city design and everyone having to work 40h or more a week (leaves little time to even visit those spaces). The dating apps have capitalised on it, but the change has been happening since before them. And also drinking has fallen out of fashion with young people… Bars and clubs were a major place to meet new people in the past. If you look at the statistics now, Gen Z barely drinks at all. In my country, most clubs are shutting down because people under 50 barely go and people over 50 are starting to get too old to go. Bars are still fairly popular among younger people, but not as much as even a decade ago.

    • Absorbing other companies is illegal under anti-trust, but taking a company as a subsidiary is not, which is the workaround for anti-trust. It gives the false illusion of competition being available.

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    It’s just a big game of Monopoly except they’re allowed to trick us into thinking they haven’t dominated the board yet. What a joke.

  • 2 days

    Makes perfect sense! How many companies would you expect to own all the popular dating sites? 5? 10?

    Of course not! There should only be one company controlling entire markets, it’s the American way 🤡

    • And they have made the apps intentionaly worse, because a successful dating app deletes its users.

      • Yeah it’s one of those cases where basic material interest ought to cast suspicion on the apps in my view.

    • Bumble is the only mainstream one I know for certain is independent.

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        It’s not technically independent since Badoo (owned by Bumble) is a very popular dating app too. Those two apps/companies have a weird history (Badoo’s owner funded Bumble), but Bumble was also started by an ex-Tinder employee.

        And looking at their Wikipedia entries, Bumble seems to be publicly traded with Blackstone owning a significant portion of the company. Bumble also bought Fruitz (another dating app) a few years ago.

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            Tried Bumble. Got a match with a woman whose interests seemed fairly similar to mine, seemed like a very cool person overall.

            Couldn’t message her and the match expired because they only last 24h or something on Bumble and I believe you can extend once (for 24h).

            Stopped using the app shortly after that.

            At least on Tinder I’d get matches. Mostly low quality (by low quality I don’t mean the person… I mean that we just didn’t have much in common), but they existed and I could message them.

            Bumble removing that means it’s perhaps now usable for someone who’s not super conventionally attractive, but has enough personality to kick off a conversation. But it also means that now it’s just the same as all the other apps.

          • The article doesn’t say what you’re claiming it says.

            While it is not ditching the requirement for women to make the first move, its female users can now send a template question such as “What book or film changed the way you think?”, using the site’s Opening Moves feature.

            I’m going to ignore all the problems in the article, like how it pretends that putting in effort to message someone first and not getting a sufficient reply is some new phenomenon that uniquely affects women 🙄 holy shit

        • The Bumble IPO was when I knew online dating as a business was done. Look up the stock and pour one out for anyone who bought it five years ago.

        • Whelp, this was a rabbit hole I was not expecting. Talk about optics!

    • The only “success” I’ve ever had on a dating app was one called “Boo”, but it’s possible that I suck at dating apps.

  • Here are all the sites the match group owns. All of the ‘* people meet’ sites are making me laugh.

    Archer Asian People Meet Babyboomer People Meet BB People Meet Black Christian People Meet Black People Meet Black Professional People Meet BLK Catholic People Meet Chinese People Meet Chispa Delightful Democratic People Meet Divorced People Meet Genxpeoplemeet Her Hinge Indiamatch Interracial People Meet Italian People Meet J People Meet Latino People Meet Ldsplanet Little People Meet Loveandseek Marriage Minded People Meet Match.com Match Japan OkCupid Ourtime Pairs People Meet Pet People Meet Plenty of Fish Republican People Meet Salams Seniorblack People Meet Single People Meet Sniffies (minority stake)[63][64] Stir The League Tinder Upward Yuzu

    • If you want each entry to appear on a new line, you need to put two spaces at the end of each line.

      Line 1
      Line 2

      If you want a paragraph break, use two newlines

      Paragraph 1

      Paragraph 2

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        Archer

        Asian People Meet

        Babyboomer People Meet

        BB People Meet

        Black Christian People Meet

        Black People Meet

        Black Professional People Meet

        BLK

        Catholic People Meet

        Chinese People Meet

        Chispa

        Delightful

        Democratic People Meet

        Divorced People Meet

        Genxpeoplemeet

        Her

        Hinge

        Indiamatch

        Interracial People Meet

        Italian People Meet

        J People Meet

        Latino People Meet

        Ldsplanet

        Little People Meet

        Loveandseek

        Marriage Minded People Meet

        Match.com

        Match Japan

        OkCupid

        Ourtime

        Pairs

        People Meet

        Pet People Meet

        Plenty of Fish

        Republican People Meet

        Salams

        Seniorblack People Meet

        Single People Meet

        Sniffies (minority stake)[63][64]

        Stir

        The League

        Tinder

        Upward

        Yuzu

      • 2 days

        For a list of items like this, it makes sense to use either an ordered list

        1. Item one
        2. Item two
        

        or an unordered list

        - Item one
        - Item two
        
        • The problem is converting the list to point form. I would have used bullet points if it was easier than spacing

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            A bit of an advanced technique that I use often: Paste the list into a text editor like VSCodium, then use find/replace (in regex mode) to add a hyphen and a space to the beginning of each line, then copy all and paste that into Lemmy.

            Find: ^

            Replace: -

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              Or in vim you can do the same regex replace thing with

              :%s/^/- 
              

              Or as I like to do sometimes without regex

              :%norm I- 
              
  • I wonder if they have an eugenics agenda too?

    Knowing Epstein, he probably had a hand in this too.

    • Yeah, can’t help but notice how a lot of their subsidiaries try to pigeonhole people into racial categories…

  • Twenty years ago, dating apps would introduce you to people you wanted to be with. In fact, there were no apps. They were websites.

    That I actually had success meeting someone that I love and care about shows a flaw in their business model rather than a successful match. They accidentally lost two customers after extrapolating a lot of money from me without being helpful for more than a decade.

  • the best way to avoid monopoly charges, is to create multiple companies that “compete” with eachother, that you own.

    Luxotica learned this a long time ago, which is why they profit on almost any pair of glasses you buy, and why no one things its a monopoly

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    Haha exititis meets romance. Plus let’s not forget that now the dating sites are flooded with Bowkys and scammers.

  • And the best part? Matching algorithms don’t do shit. You can’t actually predict attraction and interest based on matching character traits.

    • Nah matching algorithms are ineffective because a) people don’t know what they want and/or b they’re wildly unrealistic about what they want and/or they’re delusional about their market value.

      B is evidenced by the much joked about every woman wanting a 6’4 30yr old earning 7 figures who is good looking,single (not cheating) kind and funny (maybe 0.01% of the dating pool at most)

      C is self evident - 3s who think they’re 10s or the woman with 3 kids from 3 fathers not recognising that’s a red flag.

      A is the one that confounds the matching system though. People will say they want X, but have spent the last decade dating Y. The pic and profile thing is supposed to get ppl to reveal their actual preferences but it doesn’t seem very effective

      • No, there’s actually no evidence that they work. Period. Not because people don’t know what they want–although that’s true–but because they can’t predict how people will feel in person. Attraction is incredibly complicated, and it doesn’t come down to checking a whole lot of boxes. The idea of ‘market value’ is pure incel bullshit; that’s the reason that incels do things like looksmaxxing, and it’s also the reason that it utterly fails.

        At best, they can help screen people for core values, e.g., I’m not going to be able to get along with an evangelical christian, and I’m certainly not going to be able to date anyone that believes that firearms should be banned or heavily restricted. But even that’s difficult, because people that seem to have radically different values can still have good relationships with each other.

        Most of it is a placebo effect.

        https://hdsr.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/i4eb4e8b/download/pdf