After months of testing and improvements, security engineer and modder Andy Nguyen has finally released PS5-Linux, allowing users to turn their console into a functional Linux gaming PC.
  • ipkpjersi@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2 days

    Well, that’s pretty exciting. My PS5 is already on the latest firmware though lol

      • BradleyUffner@lemmy.worldEnglish
        16 hours

        Most consoles, if not all, have electronic fuses that are embedded inside chips that they intentionally blow out with each firmware update that prevent them from rolling back to older versions.

      • Semperverus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2 days

        Thats called a downgrade attack and is explicitly blocked by most modern security models that are not a PC.

          • Semperverus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1 day

            Is it?

            As a malicious actor or red-team player, I would want to get you on as old of an OS as I could in order to exploit a wider range of CVEs. Or in most cases, one would be hunting for a specific set of CVEs. Once I’ve got you on the version I want, I can then perform other attacks and ensure that they run.

            The iPhone, many Android phones, some network equipment, and game consoles all have eFuses that burn when you perform an update, and the specific number or pattern they burn in is used to determine the lowest OS version your device is allowed to be on in order to stop this from happening.

            • neclimdul@lemmy.worldEnglish
              17 hours

              I mean, my phone has all sorts of private and confidential information and is regularly in hostile environments where attackers might get physical access to it. Kinda want the best, most hardened security posture.

              My Playstation sits in my living room and has my gaming history and access to my games…

                • neclimdul@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  14 hours

                  Ive worked with ecommerce enough to not store my card anywhere. Also pretty sure they’d store it in the cloud so could max it out in the store and I could claim the fraud.

                  But if your in my living room thinking, I’m going to sit down and hack his Playstation to get his credit card… Don’t know man, seems there’s better plans.

    • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      2 days

      This is not even close to the reason that my PS5 has been offline, but it’s super neat and probably means we’re close to piracy.

  • harc@szmer.infoEnglish
    3 days

    Back in March this year, security engineer and modder Andy Nguyen started experimenting with running Linux on the PS5. After months of testing and improvements, he has finally released PS5-Linux

    Math was never my strongest point, but something doesent add up here.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 days

      Math was never my strongest point

      Think of it like a toddler.

      The first 9 months, it’s not even an infant yet. Then boom, you get a baby. 6 months of development later you have a 6 month old toddler. But process started 15 months ago.

      • harc@szmer.infoEnglish
        2 days

        Yes, that would make sense, if not for the “started experimenting” part. I do understand the process here, its just that the writing is nonsensical (or AI).

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2 days

          It makes sense…

          Just not to you…

          Now that I’ve explained it, you agree that it can be taken that way, but still because you didn’t immediately take it the intended way, you see fault with the writing.

          That is a very bad attitude to have.

          Not immediately understanding what someone means is normal,happens to everyone.

          But if after someone explains it in a way you get, doubling down that the writer was at fault aost guarantees you’re going to keep having this problem.

          You cant force everyone everywhere to communicate in a way that you immediately get, you have to work on being able to view something multiple different ways and identifying thru context what was meant.

          Like, just for purely selfish reasons, you want to be able to understand others

          • harc@szmer.infoEnglish
            2 hours

            Yeah, I needed your explanation. I just could not conceive another interpretation, and choose to reject it. Without your guidance I could not into English dear sir! Thank you for your selfless benevolent assistance!

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
              58 minutes

              Right on, kind of still sounds sarcastic, but I’ll chalk that up to language issues.

              Have a good one

          • No1@aussie.zoneEnglish
            2 days

            If there are multiple ways it can be interpreted, it’s poorly written

      • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2 days

        Plus, since consoles age must faster than humans, we have to convert time into “console years” which passes at a rate of 7 console years for every 1 human year. Therefore the “months of development” is accurate.

  • daggermoon@piefed.worldEnglish
    2 days

    If I install Linux on a PS5, can I use the Blu-ray drive as a PC optical drive to rip DVD’s and shit?

    • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      2 days

      I doubt it, but if so, maybe you can do UHD Blu-Rays too, since the PS5 can handle those.

    • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 days

      Didn’t the PS5 boot signing keys leak recently? The word when that happened was that it blew PS5 modding wide open in a way that couldn’t be closed without new hardware, though I guess publishing anything that used Sony’s key would have their lawyers after you real quick.

    • UntitledQuitting@reddthat.comEnglish
      12 hours

      I immediately blocked my ps5 from the internet when the Rom keys got leaked, but I too fear it was already too late

    • Jimbabwe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3 days

      Good thing mine has been unplugged ever since I realized a docked steam deck paired with ps5 controllers was a way better experience than using the PS5 anyway

        • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
          2 days

          Me, still playing 480p Wii games on my modded Wii with an old ass 1080p TV, having a blast

          • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1 day

            Sure, but that’s not better than playing games in 4k now is it? Yes it’s fun, but it’s objectively not “better”.

            • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
              18 hours

              I personally think there’s a law of diminishing returns with things like graphics and resolution, and as technology advances, what used to be good or even amazing becomes our baseline as expectations shift.

              Somewhat related to that, I’d also say there’s merit in sometimes analyzing if our chase for ‘better’ is truly bringing us enough value to warrant the downsides it brings. As an example, the market’s desire for the new and novel, for better graphics, for higher resolutions, feeds into a consumer culture that brings with it a tremendous amount of greenhouse emissions to produce and ship all those new consoles and higher resolution monitors/TVs, environmental destruction to mine the raw materials for them, exploitation of third world workers to gather those materials and assemble them into those products, products which as the OP points out, are increasingly user hostile and enshittified alongside those better graphics.

              When looked at objectively, a Wii is a comparatively low resolution, but it is also widely available used (so while it did initially contribute to the downsides I mentioned above when new, as a used object on a second-hand market, it does not), and despite that lack of resolution, still brings with it the capability of giving us great fun, which is ultimately the reason we want to experience them, is it not? And due to its age, it has no enshittification whatsoever, the user completely owns the experience.

              But that’s just my 2 cents.

          • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1 day

            Because people don’t want to comprehend that a 720p machine won’t ever be better than something that can do 4k. They just want to be bitter.

            A Wii isn’t better than a ps5 that’s just asinine.

          • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1 day

            And wouldn’t a ps5 be better though? Of course you can have fun, but it’s an objectively worse machine.

              • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                1 day

                Compared to a steam deck? That’s not even close to being true.

                The original comment compared it to a ps5, not a wii, not a ps4. Keep on topic.

                • SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                  1 day

                  Compared to a second hand PS4, which is what I was talking about.

                  Hell, I think my Xbox 360 has good graphics considering I got it out of a dumpster

    • RogueBanana@piefed.zipEnglish
      2 days

      If it was on, I assume it is already updated to 5.x which patched the vulnerability. But if it is 4.x then you’re in luck.

    • halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish
      3 days

      Well, you can get the hardware now for one.

      Would be an interesting comparison once it does release though. Especially for a price/performance comparison now that Sony increased PS5 pricing.

  • evidences@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2 days

    I can’t wait for bringus studios to release a video where he games on a PS5.

    • SillyDude@lemmy.zipEnglish
      2 days

      He essentially did. He did that one build with one of those ps5 reject boards. Based off that I assumed the ps5 could run standard Linux but I haven’t cared about consoles and modding in a very long time.

    • Beangut@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 days

      I would personally try to go for a BC-250 blade setup, less performance but roughly half the cost of a secondhand ps5 (in Aus at least) and still capable of modern gaming

      I suppose that also depends on time invested tinkering and sourcing components for the BC-250 like an ssd, enclosure and psu

  • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2 days

    If the jailbreak method ever works on whatever the current firmware is, I’ll probably go ahead and do it to mine.

  • Big T@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    2 days

    Fml, my ps5 is up to date. Maybe I can try and buy an old one and sell mine.

    • saltesc@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 days

      If you can pick up a second-hand PS5, possibly. Obviously is if you already own one and wanna Proton it.

  • Scotty_Trees@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2 days

    Never bought a PS5, and def don’t plan on ever buying a console ever again. Long live emulators! Fuck you nintendo!!!