- username_1@programming.devEnglish9 days
No, why would we? Americans maybe? They love ads, apparently…
- [deleted]@piefed.worldEnglish9 days
American here, I hate ads and haven’t seen any on YouTube for years. Well, other than movie trailers and stuff I chose to watch intentionally.
- OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
Same here. It’s jarring to use someone else’s device. AdGuard does a great job on my phone.
9 daysYou guys get ads ?
you guys go to YT ? I wonder how and why it’s still out there. They make it so obvious they don’t want people to watch video’s there
- Art3mis@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
I was part of a really annoying one recently that targeted vpn use but it seems to have stopped
- Damarus@feddit.orgEnglish9 days
Well currently they’re delaying the video start by the time it would have taken the ad to play. It’s still better than having to actually watch ads, but blockers are not in the best position right now.
- Dagamant@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
That’s what they say but not what I’m experiencing. Either way, blank screen is better than ads
- Nindelofocho@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
Same here. They really underestimate how much more annoying ads are
- athatet@lemmy.zipEnglish9 days
I’m not watching ads so it’s doing exactly what I want it to thank you very much.
- lost_faith@lemmy.caEnglish9 days
What delay? click vid, yt asks if I want to know why my connection is slow, by the time I read that the vid plays. FF+UBO+Linux
I’m not the person you’re responding to, but I’m running SmartTube on an Nvidia Shield here. Works amazing.
- 9 days
It astonishes me that the shield is still the best of the streaming boxes after all these years.
- Dudewitbow@lemmy.zipEnglish9 days
its still very capable, but best depends. iirc there are certain audio formats the shield doesnt support.
i personally would love a new shield using ~switch 2 soc just so i can move emulation/lower end pc onto it.
- 9 days
What format does the shield not support that other boxes do support?
- Dudewitbow@lemmy.zipEnglish9 days
I went to go look it up for my old setup, turns out its mainly for the older models, as the codecs are only supported on the newer revisions of the shield tv.
though with the shield tv, one of the missing things that would be nice to have would be AV1 support (as Nvidia only supported AV1 starting with Ampere based gpus)
- 9 days
It’s so versatile. One of the last great products Nvidia came up with before shooting up AI crack.
- Mac@mander.xyzEnglish9 days
I have this thing called a DisplayPort cable. So yes, uBlock origin on my TV.
Edit: I’m realizing this might be coming across really shitty, but i promise I’m just intending some tongue-in-cheek dry joking.
- Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish9 days
I mean there are ways, like pihole, but I like the simple option of a really long hdmi cable that I use to plug my computer into the TV, so I never have to use any of the shitty built in TV apps.
- 9 days
You’re correct. Pihole works at the DNS level. Since YouTube hosts their ads on the same servers that host their videos, blocking the ads with DNS would also block the videos. Which I guess it technically works to block YT ads, but that’s a little like saying “set a man on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life.”
- guy@piefed.socialEnglish9 days
What, it works for me? Put on an 8 hour video while doing chores and had ads every 5 minutes. Filled with rage I installed pihole and no more ads.
- Decq@lemmy.worldEnglish8 days
I’m curious how. Maybe a different region? I don’t have Pihole anymore but it didn’t use to do anything for me for YouTube. Luckily we have uBlock.
- guy@piefed.socialEnglish5 days
Maybe? My region is Sweden. I really haven’t had any ads on YouTube since installing pihole. “Works on my machine”
- Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish9 days
Honestly, I’ve not used it, I just know of it. From a quick search it looks like you’re right tho, you’d probably need to use an external device like an android box or something.
I would love to run a long hdmi cable from my pc to my tv, but I have rabbits and they like the spicy hay
- Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish9 days
Oh no, I feel that, we had an orange kitty who adored his electric spaghetti! We had to run cables through that tube conduit stuff everywhere >.<
Oh the orange ones are the most fun. I had a couple oranges as a kid and they were so sweet and so dumb. I loved them lol
- cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish9 days
Look for an armored HDMI cable. They are wrapped in a steel jacket. Conduit is also an option.
Conduit is probably the best option, I just haven’t done anything with it yet. And I might have to convince partner to cut some holes in the wall to make that work. I’ll eventually figure it out.
- W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish9 days
So I was watching Forrest Gump and he’s running through the jungles of Viet Nam. All of a sudden he stops running. And I know that’s not right because he hasn’t rescued “him” yet.
Turns out my jerk face rabbit chewed through the Ethernet cable.
Rabbits do love that spicy hay.
And we love them even with their destructive habits. I love my two babies 😊
- W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish8 days
When he was still with us, we loved our jerk face too.
Rabbit Tax:
What a handsome fella he was! Thank you for sharing.
Here are my buns
- excursion22@piefed.caEnglish9 days
Yeah I unsmarted my TV and just threw Mint on an old laptop. FreeTube works great on there.
I have a script that takes a YT URL on my clipboard and uses yt-dlp to download it to my Jellyfin folder so I can watch on my Apple TV on The Big Telly.
Fuck adverts.
- Quicky@piefed.socialEnglish9 days
If you’ve got a VPN, just install that on your Apple TV. Google doesn’t show ads in certain countries (the list is Googleable). That was an absolute game changer for me.
- Quicky@piefed.socialEnglish9 days
I use an Apple TV, but I assume it’s the same as any other streaming box or appropriate smart TV.
The absolute piece-of-piss way to block all YouTube ads on it is to install a VPN like Proton, choose a relevant country (easily googleable), and there will be no ads whatsoever in YouTube.
Google doesn’t serve ads on YouTube in a handful of countries.
Probably a fair percentage of users block þeir smart TVs from connecting to þe internet.
- 9 days
There are some options on some TVs. WebOS has an app which can be sideloaded.
Actually, YouTube is cracking down on adblockers.
So while you might not feel the pain now, you will eventually.
- LedgeDrop@lemmy.zipEnglish9 days
“They” have also been trying to prevent consumers/us from taking ownership of our devices and data for the last 2-decades.
… and, ya know what? It’s working.
- 9 days
Nah, if Youtube blocks adblockers then I’ll just waste my time elsewhere.
- 9 days
Same, I low key hope they do it so I’ll read more. This might be the only way. 🙃
real maybe I’ll actually go through the mountains of DVDs and blu rays in our apartment
+1 combo. privacy badger, ublock origin and umatrix for fine tuning. also a youtube specific addon. seems okay
- 9 days
Are these from reliable sources? I’m always hesitant with extensions as they are given a lot of access and often seem to be from shady sources.
- SorryQuick@lemmy.caEnglish9 days
Because they don’t put the effort in.
Add a simple “the video isn’t served until the ad’s length has elapsed” and suddenly your only workaround is to spend 30s staring at a black screen.
- 9 days
The day I have to watch ads is the same day I stop youtube. So far ad blocks seem to work well for now and I’m more than willing to spend hours getting them working if needed.
- webghost0101@sopuli.xyzEnglish9 days
Laughs in
Txt file with favorite channels as input for a yt-dlp download script schedule. Combined with a selfhosted invidious and freetube desktop app for other then favorite videos.
Honestly I am really tired of jumping trough hoops, have to make sure yt-dlp and invidious use a proxy (cloudflare warp) or google will ban your ip for being a bot.
But having to deal with the actual YouTube site or reopening my google account is worse. Its not even (but still also) the ads at this point but pure resentment against big tech.
- webghost0101@sopuli.xyzEnglish9 days
First I hear of if but a quick scroll shows it mostly to organize an existing collection so you would still need to download.
I put them straight into jellyfin which works fine for me.
- Typhoon@lemmy.caEnglish9 days
When it reaches that point I’ll stop watching YouTube. I will never feel the pain they inflict.
- 9 days
I feel the pain anytime I look at a video outside of my browser. So if it becomes where I can’t find a workaround, then I’ll just have to go elsewhere. And there will be other places. There are other places, it’s just hard to get people to not go to or be on the big one. Push people hard enough, they’ll leave.
- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish9 days
The moment I’m unable to watch YouTube ad-free is the moment I never watch YouTube again.
- 9 days
Cracking down just means I don’t watch the content, still not getting ads.
What’s the end game with YouTube? Will it eventually cut all videos and show nothing but ads?
- FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish9 days
The ironic part is that there was a time where I’d watch hours long compilation videos of funny ads, and even now I watch 90s nostalgia ones set to vaporwave mixes. Hell, every person and their grandmother I knew at one time watched the Superbowl “just for the ads”.
At some point, the goal of marketing shifted from “How do we keep your attention/whimsy” to “How can we force unwilling participants to comply?” Fuck that fascismo shit.
- dellish@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
Ahhh, so similar to Facebook then. I don’t bother with that site either.
- solidsmoke@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
If they just made the ads unintrusive people wouldn’t bother installing adblockers. But sure make the ads longer and see what happens.
- just2look@lemmy.zipEnglish9 days
Also changed how ads are served so they wouldn’t be a known security issue. Intrusive or not I will block all of them until security improves.
- stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish9 days
I have said it before, and I’ll say it again.
As an IT guy I consider an adblocker an essential part of my computer security suite.
I will not reconsider until there are laws in place forcing website owners to take legal and financial responsibility for any damage sustained to my computer when visiting their site, and loading their ads.
IF the laws are changed like that, I would reconsider getting rid of my adblocker, ai still wouldn’t but I would reconsider the issue.
- 9 days
I care about those things.
I want them to go down faster >:)
- FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish9 days
Exactly, people used to love ads. They would sit down and watch hour long compilation videos of the funniest and weirdest ones. People would get hyped for shit like Old Spice and Skittles and never skip it. Even the Superbowl was less entertaining than the ads it had and that was a mainstream opinion.
It’s the exact same as the boomers who keep crowing “Why doesn’t anyone wanna work?!” but now it’s “Why doesn’t anyone want ads?!” lmao
- FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish9 days
Nah, take a look at the stats of the number of people who tried out an adblocker for the first time when Youtube attempted to ban them several months back. Streisand Effect in action.
Back in the day it was just some stuff, like “bosch screwdrivers, 29.90” or something, now it’s attention grabbing hyper annoying crap, who can even live with that?
- 9 days
Most people still would.
I personally wouldn’t, that’s why I use Adblock Plus. But there’s a reason everyone started hating on ABP when it started allowing non-intrusive ads by default. Most people do not want to see ads at all, no matter what.
- 9 days
If they made ads unobtrusive they wouldn’t be able to charge as much for them.
- AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish9 days
My smart tube app wasn’t working tonight so watched YouTube on the normal app. I can’t believe people live like this, it’s actually unwatchable.
- 9 days
Seriously bro! I got revanced on my phone and smart tube next on the tv. I legit had to think about the last time I used the official app and it was nothing but angry memories. Waking up in the middle of a, and I’m not making this up, hour plus long ad! Always auto playing some ai slop bullshit about some murder or something slightly cosmological.
I was jarred by an ad playing during LOTR on HBO just now.
- Voroxpete@sh.itjust.worksEnglish9 days
If you run Fcast receiver on your android TV device, you can cast to it from Grayjay without ads.
- 7 days
Okay how good is Smart Tube for ypu? I downloaded it to my family Fire TV but my mom just refuses to use it, so we watch long, loud, unbearable ads all the time. I get that there’s no algorithm to find videos, but can you import subscriptions? My mom has noticed YT never shows her a few of her subscribed channels in her recommended anymore.
- AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish6 days
It’s great. I’m pretty sure you can sign in so you get your algorithm and subscriptions. But it’s an incredible app. Infinitely better than the normal YouTube app.
- Lemminary@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
Time to double down on the adblocks, then. I get it conceptually, but I still don’t understand this need for infinite growth at everyone’s expense.
- Soup@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
Right? If I don’t otherwise pay for the service then sure, some ads are fine. Problem is that at this point I’m seeing ads every few minutes, and if the video restarts in a weird spot and reloads funny after I reopen my laptop I might even get the same ads looping after literally two seconds of video.
Also, I was paying for the service and then they gave a fuckload of support to Israel to spread propaganda so I stopped.
- 9 days
But like all corporations once that IPO went through they abandoned any semblance of morality at the alter of obscene profit.
- 9 days
Thanks, Google. I was trying to cut down my usage of YouTube.
What are the best Fedi alternatives?
- P1k1e@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
It’s what Lemmy was when I started up after reddit killed their 3rd party apps. Like a year later Lemmy exploded
- aquovie@lemmy.cafeEnglish9 days
When I checked the Fedi alternatives were far-right hangouts. Part of that unfortunate “free speech absolutist” == “asshole” phase.
It’s not Fediverse but I like Nebula. It’s more like a co-op so I don’t mind paying for it at all.
- 9 days
I mean alternative platforms, not alternative ways to use YouTube (although this looks useful in the meantime, so thanks anyway)
- Art3mis@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
I like nebula but it is pretty limited. Its mostly educational and essay type stuff. For the price it is amazing and the only streaming platform i have anymore. But i dont know if id call it a youtube alt unless you only watch that type of video. They have a handful of other things too but the variety just isnt there yet. The other thing i both like and dislike is the lack of comments.
I do recommend it though. Crazy affordable, owned by the creators, ad free. Just kind of niche still
- BiomedOtaku@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish9 days
Dam ads exist ? Been on YouTube Revanced for 5 years now 😂😂🖕🖕 fuck you google.
I’d very much suggest everyone try YouTube Revanced.
- Tiresia@slrpnk.netEnglish9 days
Though android is likely going to crack down on them before the end of the year, so new users should switch to a degoogled or open source phone OS.
Or download the videos using ytdlp, and use a cable to transfer them to your phone like it’s 2012.
- Samskara@sh.itjust.worksEnglish9 days
Im using 1Blocker on Safari macOS and iOS and get no ads on YouTube.
- Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish9 days
It’s all fine and fun until Google prevents people from installing third party APKs in a few months…
- boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish9 days
Can they? Because I’ve got a modified YouTube ipa on my iPhone and that’s more closed than Android could ever become in the span of the next few months.
- boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish9 days
I don’t remember the exact procedure for this, but here’s the summary. You’ll first want to install sidestore or sidestore + livecontainer. Computer needed for that. You’ll also want a stock YouTube ipa file that you can then mod with YouTube Plus or similar utility.
You’ll have to update livecontainer (if you installed it) and YouTube every 7 days unless you have a dev license but Sidestore does it with a single button press in-app so it’s not that inconvenient. You can install ipas within sidestore (limited amount at a time) or livecontainer (as many as you want I believe, but it’s more complicated) without connecting to a computer once the initial setup is done
- workgood@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish9 days
they wont. thats just bs. there will be advanced flow to use ,and adb to install.
- hietsu@sopuli.xyzEnglish9 days
For us advanced users true, but for the bulk of people where ”just use this app instead” has worked previously, will not do it anymore. Whole lotta more hoops to jump through and google knows many will not be able to.
- Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish9 days
There will be an advanced flow for now, maybe (they didn’t explain how it will work). But our freedom is getting restricted nonetheless
- Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish9 days
You just gotta love the headline in the article, it’s trying to sell it as a great new feature
VRC Non-Skip ads are now generally available, allowing brands to reach TV audiences with Google AI.
- Ilumar@lemmy.zipEnglish9 days
It is for their target audience. They’re not talking to you, they’re talking to their customers.
yt pops up that ‘slowdowns? read more…’ nag while i’m not watching the ad. make me feel special
The slowdown is becsuse the adblocker had to take an additional 0.002 seconds to block the ads.
seems to pause for 5-10 seconds, while the ad plays out of sight. i can wait
- BlakeFox808@lemmy.worldEnglish8 days
Gen X made 90 minute cassette recordings of their favorite music. Back then you could lower the volume to ignore ads and wait for the DJ to trigger your recording. Today I just use the mute on the remote and have my other device handy to watch some other content while waiting for show to come back to the main content. It’s always good to have a mantra about adverting by associating it in your head as indoctrination “Poison” which is what it is essentially.
- comrade19@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
Am I bad because I pay for YouTube? I watch it so so much on different devices and also use YouTube music instead of Spotify. The paid teir hasn’t undergone enshittification yet (it always does). Thats when ill stop.
- fierysparrow89@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
I’m long past the point of even considering paying Google a dime for other people’s content.
I’m getting sick of titles like these “… this changes everything…”, “scientists are mystified”, “…nobody knew…”, or some ridicoulus question as title. Majority of creators are hinting lately that yt “suggests” how to title and organize the topic for maximum visibility and monetization. In effect mandating their enshittification features.
Nvm, the moment NewPipe stops being able to play a video in a normay way is the end of yt for me. Just like I left reddit for lemmy.
- comrade19@lemmy.worldEnglish8 days
Yeah damn I refuse to click on that stuff. I like the slow content which is what I’m subscribed to and is all ill watch
- FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish9 days
Yeah you’re literally part of the problem lol
You’re actively funding enshittification, at least the rest of us are innocent
- Bluefruit@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
Nothing wrong with that. I pay for YouTube premium. Tbh I got fed up with all the hoops on mobile so I just started paying for it and honestly, its been a good fit for me.
I watch a ton of YouTube content so paying for it to support creators and not having ads is fine with me.
- Bluefruit@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
According to an LTT video that broke down thier revenue about 11 months ago, 45% of your premium sub is divided among creators that you watch.
Not sure how thats calculated, but it seems to be a pretty sizable chunk according to LTT.
Skip to around 4:50 in the video
Nah, nothing wrong with that. The problem isn’t users, it’s what the company expects from users.
- NotAnArdvark@lemmy.caEnglish9 days
I sure like it. “Free” YouTube is like using a browser without an blocker now - I forget how bad it is and I can’t believe people live like that.
Being able to cancel Spotify was a nice bonus too.
- RamRabbit@lemmy.worldEnglish9 days
“Free” YouTube is like using a browser without an blocker now
What do you mean? UBlock Origin kills all the YouTube ads. Not giving money to Google is perfectly fine.
- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish9 days
I have literally never seen a YouTube ad, I think, in my entire life. I would never pay for that experience.
- 9 days
You’re not bad, google is bad.
I’d suggest already exploring alternatives now. There’s front ends, alternate links, … all with pro’s and cons.
I will say though, once you stop using an account and cut out the feed/algo out of your diet it becomes apparent very quick how much of a grip they hold on our attention just by the layout and such. Now I just check 2 channels every few days and even that’s losing my interest.
- psx_crab@lemmy.zipEnglish9 days
I too pay for youtube because i also use music and use it in 3 separated place. Honestly it worth it for me, and it’s not as expensive even after the price hike recently. Until it gone to the shitter i’ll keep using it.
- BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish9 days
We’ve got a business model that didn’t even exist 25 years ago, and we’re making insane money!
How can we fuck it up?
